Bicyclist vs. 3 year old.

[John]

Cyclist totally at fault here no problem - but should a 3 year old be allowed to just run out on to the pavement?

What if she ran in to the road - are 3 year olds aware of the danger?

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/hit-run-cyclist-brought-justice-141311676.html?vp=1#WNsQyGd

 

[Simon_M]

I think the punishment is because he did not stop.

I had a toddler run out in front of me while driving home in a housing estate - straight out between parked cars and into the house. Scared the shyate out of me and would no doubt have been my fault even though I was only doing 15-20mph. I had words with the mother and was met with abuse...

 

[grober]

Pavement - for pedestrians- not bikes. BBC interview with the cyclist after his court appearance- accompanied by his father I assume- seem like nice people- NOT. BBC iPlayer - BBC News at Six - 31/07/2015 18 minutes in.

 

[camerafodder]

^^^this^^^

 

[John]

Pavement - for pedestrians- not bikes. BBC interview with the cyclist after his court appearance- accompanied by his father I assume- seem like nice people- NOT. BBC iPlayer - BBC News at Six - 31/07/2015 18 minutes in.

Is it me or was there more than a hint of Kenneth Wiliams when the perp turned round...

 

[AMGeed]

^ Nasty piece of work, totally unapologetic, and his father doesn't seem much better.

 

[Dryce]

Cyclist totally at fault here no problem - but should a 3 year old be allowed to just run out on to the pavement?

I don't think there's a problem as long as your three year old isn't going to run on to the road. This one wasn't.

The situation here was simple. The three year old should have been safe on the pavement but the cyclist was there.

The fundamental here: cyclists are not allowed on the pavement.

 

[cb1965]

Typical of the sort of people that seem to inhabit this country these days. Accepting no blame and will doubtless be riding on the pavement again tomorrow. Let's hope karma does its thing!

 

[moonloops]

As stated above - bikehunts are not not allowed on "foot"paths. Plenty of them get caught and fined each day in London alone..

 

[geraldrobins]

I don't think there's a problem as long as your three year old isn't going to run on to the road. This one wasn't.

The situation here was simple. The three year old should have been safe on the pavement but the cyclist was there.

The fundamental here: cyclists are not allowed on the pavement.

Agreed

 

[Wheelsnuts]

Absolutely. Pavements are for pedestrians and cyclists should not ride on them unless there is a clearly defined cycle route. Even then, they should be mindful of pedestrians and be prepared to give way or stop in an emergency.

 

[219]

I must admit that , in some places , where I consider the roads too dangerous to cycle on , I have taken to riding on the pavements , but I always do so with due caution and consideration towards pedestrians .

I'll take the risk of a small fine against the likelihood of getting knocked down by an inconsiderate driver or squashed under a truck any day of the week .

 

[219]

I think the punishment is because he did not stop.

I had a toddler run out in front of me while driving home in a housing estate - straight out between parked cars and into the house. Scared the shyate out of me and would no doubt have been my fault even though I was only doing 15-20mph. I had words with the mother and was met with abuse...

One of my friends knocked down and killed a little boy who ran out from between two parked cars !

My friend was in shock for days afterwards , couldn't drive for quite a while , and despite the police investigation absolving him of blame ( he wasn't speeding and no fault found with his newish Ford Granada ) he still felt guilt over it .

He at least did stop .

The cyclist in the case above may have fled out of fear of being assaulted by the father , but then ought to have gone straight to the police .

 

[pipmk]

I must admit that , in some places , where I consider the roads too dangerous to cycle on , I have taken to riding on the pavements , but I always do so with due caution and consideration towards pedestrians .

I'll take the risk of a small fine against the likelihood of getting knocked down by an inconsiderate driver or squashed under a truck any day of the week .

How about obeying the law and not risking injuring someone by doing what you should,get off,push the bike and remount on the road when it is safe to do so? I don't think the argument is about fines or not,it's about injuring someone which most of us regard as being slightly more important.

 

[E55BOF]

I don't think any of us are arguing about the fine...

The cyclist thoroughly deserved a hefty fine, and received one. If he'd stopped and apologised, and taken the risk of the child's father giving him a couple of smacks, if not pushing his bike sideways up his jacksie, he might well not have been prosecuted at all.

I'd have stopped; any decent individual would. Come to think of it, maybe it's just as well he WAS prosecuted...

 

[219]

How about obeying the law and not risking injuring someone by doing what you should,get off,push the bike and remount on the road when it is safe to do so? I don't think the argument is about fines or not,it's about injuring someone which most of us regard as being slightly more important.

Thank you for your comment , however I am quite capable of cycling safely and competently without endangering anyone ; in the event that there are any pedestrians around I either slow down , give them a wide berth or , indeed , stop , as required .

I regard my own safety as somewhat more important than a fine and am quite capable of deciding where it is or is not safe to cycle .

 

[Deleted member 6183]

Thank you for your comment , however I am quite capable of cycling safely and competently without endangering anyone ; in the event that there are any pedestrians around I either slow down , give them a wide berth or , indeed , stop , as required .

I regard my own safety as somewhat more important than a fine and am quite capable of deciding where it is or is not safe to cycle .

This could have been written by Mr Holland before May this year.

 

[219]

This could have been written by Mr Holland before May this year.

Perhaps , but I don't cycle in the manner he did , nor would I have done so on the footpath of a residential street with openings on one side and parked vehicles on the other .

Many of the paths I do cycle on are marked as shared use , and the others are generally empty of pedestrians but certainly with no entrances to premises from which someone might emerge ; the roads on the other hand are densely populated with traffic such that I don't feel safe cycling on them .

 

[cb1965]

Your halo is slipping

 

[219]

The footpaths of rural Ayrshire and Lanarkshire are an entirely different world from those in Londinium .