C63 Collected!!

[scumbag]

I might go, but to be honest having done several Porsche instruction days I can probably guess the format and outcome.

Not suggesting it for instruction purposes. the 1hr AMG experience puts you in a C63 for starters, shows you how all the safety devices work, by stamping on the brakes and throttle when you probably wouldn't in the real world, until you learn how they work and you get confidence in how they help.

And they shove you round the track section, which helps you feel how the 7g works when driven hard.

You will also appreciate the limitations of a 1800kg estate as you will be able to directly compare it to your previous experience. thus giving you a benchmark and a baseline for what the car can actually do.

Compared to some pretty rapid cars out there, the C63 really does take you by surprise, but compared to a proper sports car, it is a big heavy estate with a slushmatic and spongy brakes.

Unless you take yours to a track, and that is not why you bought it so why would you, you won't see how it all works and what it can and can't do.

Give it a go. you will see what I mean. Its a nice day out too.


Thanks for the tyre depth.


looks like soft tyres then. will be checking mine tommorrow with its 3100miles on it.

 

[Steve_B]

when the novelty wears off a bit, you will like driving it, and it will come to you. Even with the paddles and side shift +/- you should find you just shove it D and let it get on.

Spot on. M-mode is way too 'will it, won't it' for me and I can honestly say that I've probably only used the paddles half a dozen times for the very occasional downshift.

 

[A210AMG]

^ Steve sorry to go way off topic what MPG does the ML63 do? on a run at 'normal' speeds and round town...

I guess were talking low teens to 20?


Don't see ML63's very often but one at Chester garage and looked great

 

[Steve_B]

I guess were talking low teens to 20?

Managed as low as 8 and as high as 23...with a tail wind...but it's best not to think about such things
YouTube - Merc ML63 AMG

As Jack will no doubt be discovering, 'S' mode is brutal, and exceptionally intuitive, and there's very little about that will bother you when you floor it.

 

[Jack Wood]

OK, so today I've been doing as suggested and driving the car in auto mode, all be it in S mode. And yes, it does work much better than expected. I've a feeling I have been looking too deep into this, as some have suggested, and really should just "go with it" rather than fight it. The only time I have used M is to use 1st and 2nd when punting around to make some noise! The cracks and pops from the exhaust are intoxicating on overrun

Quick question: If you are in C or S and you use the paddle to drop a gear, you get a D3/D2/D4 etc in the displa, and the box goes to full manual. Even if you wait a while, it never drops back into full auto mode. How do you get it to do that without 1) pressing the C/S/M button to cycle through the modes, or pull the Up shifter repeatably until it clears the gear number in the display and reverts to just D?

 

[Palmball]

Jack (and any other C63 owners out there who may not know this)...

Both of the following are gearbox 'shortcuts' and can be done in either C or S:

To drop to the lowest gear available - Move the gearlever left and hold it there for about a second. The gearbox will drop to the lowest gear it can.

To revert to auto mode - Move the gearlever right and hold it there for about a second. The gearbox will go to the highest gear and will be back in auto mode (just what you wanted Jack).

Now, I can't remember if it also does this by pulling on the respective paddle and holding it for a second or so and as I currently don't own one I can't check!

 

[Maff]

Jack (and any other C63 owners out there who may not know this)...

Both of the following are gearbox 'shortcuts' and can be done in either C or S:

To drop to the lowest gear available - Move the gearlever left and hold it there for about a second. The gearbox will drop to the lowest gear it can.

To revert to auto mode - Move the gearlever right and hold it there for about a second. The gearbox will go to the highest gear and will be back in auto mode (just what you wanted Jack).

Now, I can't remember if it also does this by pulling on the respective paddle and holding it for a second or so and as I currently don't own one I can't check!

yes, my CL65 also done this on the paddles hopefuly the c63 will too.

 

[Palmball]

Maff, any news on your delivery date yet?

I mentioned your delay to my dealer who questioned MB UK and they are still saying the date on the system is accurate.

Now, I don't believe a word of it - my build date was last Monday (so the car should be made now??) and my initial factory collect confirmation letter said approx 15th April for collection. However, the 15th is only a couple of weeks away and I've stil heard NOTHING

 

[scumbag]

Quick question: If you are in C or S and you use the paddle to drop a gear, you get a D3/D2/D4 etc in the displa, and the box goes to full manual. Even if you wait a while, it never drops back into full auto mode.

All you do is select a gear lower than the range will allow. same as the old style box selection with d,6,5,4,3,2,1 etc. it just drops it a gear with one pull, or left push, and then operates as auto up to that selected gear. The dash tells you the range you have available.

In M, it drives in that gear you select. Your display will never show D whilst in M.

The car will set off in 2nd when in C, and 1st in other modes. (AMG screen shows this)

If you stamp on the throttle in C, it will drop one gear, then another and so on until it reaches the best gear to fire you towards the horizon.

If you stamp on the throttle in S, it will select the lowest gear it can use and go straight to it. which means if you are at 50, in 7th and mash the throttle, it goes down to 2nd. (If you are in 7th in M, and push the throttle through the bulkhead, it remains in 7th and you get a dent in your bulkhead.)

In c, it will always try to change up when you reduce your foot pressure on the throttle and will resist changing down unless you press quite hard.

In S it will hold the gear a while, however it will change up after a bit if you just drive. If you are pressing on, it will down change higher up the rev range too.

When driving in town, tapping the up paddle will get it to change up in C or S at about 1400-1600rpm.

When cruise control selected, in M, it drops out of 7th at about 53mph ish, in C it drops out about 48ish. You can get it to change back up below 50 when in C but it won't in M.

The throttle blips are harder in S and a lot more pronouced in M, and barely noticeable in C is under about 2500rpm.

The pops and bangs are a lot better when you have been giving it a bit of spirited driving for a while.

if you forget you are in M and you come to a stop, the dash board goes red at the rev limit in 1st (as it does in any gear in M) when you set off which reminds you to do something.

 

[trainer]

That is a very nice looking estate car. So many people will not have a clue as to what you are driving and will try to sneak past - silly!

I have see the C63 saloon and the Ml 63 both owned at times by the same person and he raves about them. He has a porsche 911 turbo but seems to spend more time in the ML.

 

[scumbag]

Now, I can't remember if it also does this by pulling on the respective paddle and holding it for a second or so and as I currently don't own one I can't check!

it does. I gave it a go on the way to work this morning.


whilst driving the one I own


jealous yet?

 

[Palmball]

it does. I gave it a go on the way to work this morning.


whilst driving the one I own


jealous yet?

Of course not - I'm loving the deep racecar-like roar given off by the E250 CDI when I start it in the morning!

 

[Jack Wood]

Palmball and Scumbag, thank you very much for the explanation. Very useful info to know. I can see there is more to this 'box than initially meets the eye. Should keep things interesting for a few weeks

Wife used the car today for a little 300 mile round trip and came back pretty pleased with it. No tailgaters. No hassle. No cameraphones. So she's happy. Benefit of an estate I think. It looks much more subtle than the saloon.

Sad news is that one of the front rims has already picked up a scuff from a bloody pot hole in the road near work last week! Rather ****** off that the car didn't even make a week without damage to one of those beautiful alloys. Drat!!

 

[Jack Wood]

Of course not - I'm loving the deep racecar-like roar given off by the E250 CDI when I start it in the morning!

At least you got a decent car to punt round in for free!! I got stuck driving a 14 year-old Disco for over 6 weeks whilst I was waiting!! No sympathy from me, pal!!

 

[scumbag]

Of course not - I'm loving the deep racecar-like roar given off by the E250 CDI when I start it in the morning!

oh my, you have been turned by Satan fuel.

If God had meant us to use sump oil for a fuel he would not have let us invent spark plugs.

Karl Benz would be turning in his grave if he knew the car he invented (using correct fuel, ie. NOT DEISEL) had succumbed to brain rattling, ear bleeding, performance less slug bucket engines.

I notice the next generation of F1 engines will be powered by deisel.....not!

I hope you can last until the real engine arrives before you are fully turned and start talking about torque, towing power and how the latest ones are not as noisy, rattly and so on that the brainwashers still spout.


<stands back, arms folded, waiting the fall out>

 

[scumbag]

Wife used the car today for a little 300 mile round trip and came back pretty pleased with it. No tailgaters. No hassle. No cameraphones. So she's happy. Benefit of an estate I think. It looks much more subtle than the saloon.

Work out a drive involving the A127 and try that again. You may find it a different response. That said, when peolle drop there windows to hear the car your driving, I guess its quite nice.

 

[corned]

I notice the next generation of F1 engines will be powered by deisel.....not!

I guess you're not too familiar with the CURRENT generation of sports car engines then...? Audi R10, Pug 908HDI...

 

[Jack Wood]

Work out a drive involving the A127 and try that again. You may find it a different response. That said, when peolle drop there windows to hear the car your driving, I guess its quite nice.

All my best car experiences have been on the continent! France in particular seems to be full of kids in Peugeots that love the sound of grunty V8's!

I had the pleasure of picking up my Focus RS from Grays, Essex. The Motherland! I was spending the weekend there at a paintball event and it is bloody chav-tastic around there

Starting to relax into the car now, and really starting to enjoy it. 790 miles in a week, and I need to get it booked in for a diff oil change now!

 

[Jack Wood]

YouTube - jackwood2's Channel

For those that want to know what a C63 sounds like from a cold start-up

 

[scumbag]

Audi R10, Pug 908HDI...

Don't JCB make those for them!