BenzedUP
MB Enthusiast
No...surely you didn't??Thats it, you've killed it
Some people like to treat their cars with respect and not rag the fcuk out of them all of the bloody time!
Marco66
Member
Drove it like a hooligan from the off,im in palmball's camp on this one,just no full revs.
BENINLUX
Active Member
Some people like to treat their cars with respect and not rag the fcuk out of them all of the bloody time!
Are those people on a different forum?
flango
Hardcore MB Enthusiast
As my previous posts, drive it like you stole it
I'm with Moonloops and Palmball
I'm with Moonloops and Palmball
I remember my work collegues trip to the Porsche factory and taken for a tour, outside at the rear of the factory the BRAND new porches would leave the factory and head off up a straight road.......
You could hear the rev limiter in each gear as they left.... the theory being if its going to break it will break then
Makes you smile I guess when you pick up your new car on say 4 or 5 miles and take care of it for the first 1000, its probably already been thrashed harder than you will.
Still I would still run in a new car myself and get the oils changed on 1000 miles no matter what the 'books' say.
If it were my C63, road trip up and down the country over the weekend would wee 1000 miles as quickly as possible and then let the fun begin
You could hear the rev limiter in each gear as they left.... the theory being if its going to break it will break then
Makes you smile I guess when you pick up your new car on say 4 or 5 miles and take care of it for the first 1000, its probably already been thrashed harder than you will.
Still I would still run in a new car myself and get the oils changed on 1000 miles no matter what the 'books' say.
If it were my C63, road trip up and down the country over the weekend would wee 1000 miles as quickly as possible and then let the fun begin
Simon_M
MB Enthusiast
Same here, they offer the warranty so if it does go t1ts up they can check whether you have hammered it from the off. But saying that the engines they bench test are probaly hammered pretty hard!
I do remember a school trip to Ford at Dagenham, XR2s coming off the line were put on rollers and taken straight up to 100mph so you never know what the car has done before, even the PDI could be hard.
But also remember that other components such as gearboxes and diffs are being run it too.
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pagzzy
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Just took a trip to somerset and smiling all the way I can appreciate the build of this car kept it below 4500 revs but still was doing 70 80 all the way with a few burst this car flies
I just can't wait until the warm up period
I just can't wait until the warm up period
st4
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Just drive it normally. The key is to avoid constant RPM and labouring, remember, the engine is just part of the car, there are all new suspension, gearbox, diffs etc to be thought off too.
Exceeding 4000rpm in a C63 is going to be tricky anyway, in this weather and with UK speed limits.
Exceeding 4000rpm in a C63 is going to be tricky anyway, in this weather and with UK speed limits.
Moon - I think you and I are going to be on our own on this one
Actually I agree with both of you,sadly I've not been in the position to buy an AMG new so can't really comment on car running in but I did buy a Honda Fireblade brand new a while back, did I keep it below 7000 rpm or whatever the advice was, no I took it right around to 14, the only thing I did try to do was to make sure it didn't hit the limiters before it's first service.
Palmball
MB Enthusiast
Oli, did the Fireblade miss a beat, break down or blow up?
I bet it's just fine!Look everyone, I'm a little tongue in cheek about this as I find it mildly amusing. I dont advocate thrashing a car to an inch of it's life from the word go as yes, there are other components to think about.
But before taking this running-in all so very seriously, just think about putting it in perpective.
Firstly, the car could / will have had a thrashing already (as has been mentioned, this is definitely the case with Porsches at the factory).
Secondly, these are modern cars that are so well engineered meaning that as the likes of people on a forum like this will maintain their cars properly (like doing the oil changes at the correct times etc), just driving the car 'normally' as you would anytime on the queens highway (i.e. you can't exactly thrash it or drive it flat out all the time or indeed very often) with the dd burst of performance, the odd visit to 7k rpm etc will do it no harm at all.
It behaved perfectly the entire time I owned it and 12k ish miles, with performance engines I think running them in at tickover is a bad idea I'm not saying bounce them off the rev limiter in every gear but pottering around barely over tickover isn't varying at all and can't be good for things in a higher state of tune.
There will always be polarised views on this. Here's one such view.
Mine will be run in gently, consistent with my experience of other cars bought new and kept for ages. None have used oil nor seen drops in BHP, none have had engine problems, and one (non-Merc car) ran for 135k miles with the orginal engine, gearbox and clutch despite being a turbo charged porsche chaser used often in anger all over the Continent, sometimes at sustained high speeds. One run in that car was at very high speed from northern Italy to Calais one summer. Not a drop of oil used (Mobil 1 used all the time before everyone else did).
I know others who've driven their cars hard when cold and during the running in period - they use oil regularly.
Once past the 1k mark, I won't extensively stress the car until it's exceeded 3k miles, but between 1k and 3k miles, it will regularly go high up the rev range, in Europe of course. It is obvious how tight the engine still is. Even the tyres need a hundred or so miles to bed in properly.
Pagzzy, keep those gears changing. Keep sight of the AMG display on the console to ensure you're not spending too much time in one gear. On motorways, I slow down, then downshift, take it up the revs, hold certain gears for some time, then go back down, and then cruise.
Avoid wheelspin if you've the diff lock (not advisable during running in mode, I think). Comfort mode is fine. As someone else said, take it on a long run, find some decent twisty roads, and maybe do at least 50 miles at a time (I have to go out of town at night to achieve this).
The way I see it is that there's plenty of time after 1k miles to do much higher revs and stresses/speeds (where allowed of course). Damage done below 1k miles is difficult to undo. You're running in the gearbox too, and the speed limit of 85 is there for a good reason.
As for the racing analogies, I hear you all and have seen those statements before. But I think you're quoting out of context. I've never seen a statement from any manufacturer that any of their cars should not be run in. Quite the opposite, in my experience - just read the owners' manual.
Mine will be run in gently, consistent with my experience of other cars bought new and kept for ages. None have used oil nor seen drops in BHP, none have had engine problems, and one (non-Merc car) ran for 135k miles with the orginal engine, gearbox and clutch despite being a turbo charged porsche chaser used often in anger all over the Continent, sometimes at sustained high speeds. One run in that car was at very high speed from northern Italy to Calais one summer. Not a drop of oil used (Mobil 1 used all the time before everyone else did).
I know others who've driven their cars hard when cold and during the running in period - they use oil regularly.
Once past the 1k mark, I won't extensively stress the car until it's exceeded 3k miles, but between 1k and 3k miles, it will regularly go high up the rev range, in Europe of course. It is obvious how tight the engine still is. Even the tyres need a hundred or so miles to bed in properly.
Pagzzy, keep those gears changing. Keep sight of the AMG display on the console to ensure you're not spending too much time in one gear. On motorways, I slow down, then downshift, take it up the revs, hold certain gears for some time, then go back down, and then cruise.
Avoid wheelspin if you've the diff lock (not advisable during running in mode, I think). Comfort mode is fine. As someone else said, take it on a long run, find some decent twisty roads, and maybe do at least 50 miles at a time (I have to go out of town at night to achieve this).
The way I see it is that there's plenty of time after 1k miles to do much higher revs and stresses/speeds (where allowed of course). Damage done below 1k miles is difficult to undo. You're running in the gearbox too, and the speed limit of 85 is there for a good reason.
As for the racing analogies, I hear you all and have seen those statements before. But I think you're quoting out of context. I've never seen a statement from any manufacturer that any of their cars should not be run in. Quite the opposite, in my experience - just read the owners' manual.
oldcro
MB Enthusiast
How many F1 races last year, about 19 I think so say an average race length of 200 miles gives 3800 racing miles. Ok double that for practice plus a bit for qualifying and an F1 car does about 10,000 miles a year under FIA rules.
10,000 miles and each driver is only allowed 8, thats eight engines to cover those 10,000 miles. Doesn't exactly promote the hammer it straight out of the box method of running in for the average driver does it.
Written with tongue firmly in cheek, but you get my drift.
10,000 miles and each driver is only allowed 8, thats eight engines to cover those 10,000 miles. Doesn't exactly promote the hammer it straight out of the box method of running in for the average driver does it.
Written with tongue firmly in cheek, but you get my drift.
flango
Hardcore MB Enthusiast
Definitely agreed
and BMW limit the car until the oil reaches a certain temperature so you can't drive it hard from cold 
Robgm
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Parag, lend the car to me for an evening and obviously your credit card for fuel, I'm sure I can get it run in just fine for you.
ps. it's Rob by the way, excuse the name change, it was forced upon me by the powers that be.
ps. it's Rob by the way, excuse the name change, it was forced upon me by the powers that be.
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pagzzy
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Lol rob I should say sure anytime lol
Went for a run in the country roads through all the gears and made sure I was below 85 well most of the times and the car is amazing
Rob u ain't gonna be happy I think i have a tiny chip on the bonnet after passing a griter truck on the m5 when I get back to London gonna try polish it out or I'm gonna give you a call
Give it 2 more days I'll be pass the 1000 miles
Went for a run in the country roads through all the gears and made sure I was below 85 well most of the times and the car is amazing
Rob u ain't gonna be happy I think i have a tiny chip on the bonnet after passing a griter truck on the m5 when I get back to London gonna try polish it out or I'm gonna give you a call
Give it 2 more days I'll be pass the 1000 miles
BenzedUP
MB Enthusiast
Definitely agreed
I loved that on my M3, plus the change gear lights tell you when to change up etc, really cool features, also BMW say don't drive the car hard from new before it's had the 1200 run in service.
matty.13
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just my 2 pence worth , but a c63 is a very expensive car to buy new - i would like to think that such a machine could handle what ever you throw at it . if you drive it to the amg requirements for piece of mind then thats fine . if you rag the life out of it then i cant see any harm in that either .
i dont think theres a right or wrong awnser to this , just do what ever you think best
i dont think theres a right or wrong awnser to this , just do what ever you think best
