C63S coupe edition 1 potential purchase questions

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Hi guys, I'm thinking of buying an edition 1 and have a few questions. It has carbon ceramic brakes and was wondering is there any way in the system to check the remaining estimated life (I can do this in my M4) and also whether the current prices are realistic? The book price on the one I'm looking at is £14k lower than the current selling price/current trade in is £24k lower so don't want to commit financial suicide at current prices.

Also as its nearly out of warranty I was thinking of a motoreasy one for about £1k a year - anyone have any experience of them with an AMG? Thanks
 
When I looked an Ed1 the carbon ceramic brakes were a concern , was quoted £7300 by MB for a set of replacement front discs and pads. On a bit more research the discs are expected to last a lot longer than steel so unless you’re doing very high mileage probably not going to be your concern, only the fronts are CC on the C63 the rear discs I believe are steel.
 
Aside from the usual pad wear warning lights, as far as I know there is no wear indicator. Standard Mercedes servicing will give you a video and measurement of pad thickness, but in general CCB will outlast conventional brakes by a considerable margin.

I have a C63s on order with CCB, and I have colleague living with a C63s Wagon for 3.5 years and covered 40k miles and the first pads were changed around 32k miles (not a track car). Even with track days, carbon discs should be good for 75-80000 miles plus. They are however quite brittle, so errant tyre fitters chipping the disc or flying road side debris being caught in between the pad disc may severely shorten their lifespan.

The biggest bonus of CCB - Very little brake dust even under heavy use.

Also, only the front discs on the C63 are Carbon Ceramic, the rears are steel. Genuine front discs/rotors can be had for around £3700-4000 for a pair, there are number of UK dealers that sell on line and even more Germany MB parts sellers on Ebay that sell genuine parts at respectable prices. The pads are not much more expensive than standard AMG ones which everyone seems to whinge about anyway.

They do (CCB) eat brake pads on track days, and the usual complaints of squealing brake pads and endless conversations about pad material abound the internet.

You can buy a set of genuine MB Carbon rear rotors from an MB specialist in Germany for about £2500, these are E63s rear discs apparently, the hub fitting is adapted slightly for C63s (don't know how). I will try and find the link I was emailed and post it up. It does make more of a difference in feeling apparently, albeit an expensive upgrade.

Regarding the pricing, the Edition 1 (it is effectively an option pack) was sold in low but not limited numbers, so the rare factor should not inflate the price that much. Before the 2019 WLTP cars were released there was a spike in prices, quite a big one as people were worried the new cars wouldn't sound as good, hence what you might see as discrepancy between what the dealer wants and the book trade and resale values. Without telling us the mileage/HPI/service history and number of owners its a stab in the dark. I have seen a few of these that seem to change hands very quickly, 2.5 year old cars with 3 owners already.

My two penneth... the dealer is trying it on and I personally wouldn't entertain a car like that from a none MB dealer unless they were a Merc specialist, but the old 'buy on condition' rule almost always applies.

I'm not exactly sure, but if it has a full MB service history you should be able to purchase an extended warranty from Mercedes AMG, might be a bit better than a third party one?
 
Given these cars are in the £36-39k+ price bracket why are none of the cars available in the UK at official MB dealers ?

Just seems strange that there are none available with an AMG warranty.
 
Thanks for the replies guys - very informative. The fact only the fronts are ceramic explains the pricing, I was wondering why there were so much cheaper than the carbon ceramics on the M4 and now I know.

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That is the car, apparently a full Mercedes dealer service history, will be 3 years old in December and only has approx 9,000 miles on it. I asked about those alloys and were told they are Mercedes ones that were a £3.5k option although I've never seen these on any other edition 1 or C63 for that matter. It does seem strange that there aren't any at official Mercedes dealers. I assumed book price was high for the edition 1 due to them all being expensive here in the UK and I'd take the car slightly above book but not £14k so if there is no budging on price then a normal C63S coupe from a Mercedes dealer is it.
 
Thanks for the replies guys - very informative. The fact only the fronts are ceramic explains the pricing, I was wondering why there were so much cheaper than the carbon ceramics on the M4 and now I know.

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That is the car, apparently a full Mercedes dealer service history, will be 3 years old in December and only has approx 9,000 miles on it. I asked about those alloys and were told they are Mercedes ones that were a £3.5k option although I've never seen these on any other edition 1 or C63 for that matter. It does seem strange that there aren't any at official Mercedes dealers. I assumed book price was high for the edition 1 due to them all being expensive here in the UK and I'd take the car slightly above book but not £14k so if there is no budging on price then a normal C63S coupe from a Mercedes dealer is it.


Do you have the registration or VIN? If so I can get you the option list!
 
I may have been looking at older versions but that is a seriously nice car you have highlighted there :thumb:

There appear to be a few others on Autotrader in the low to mid 60’s but possibly not as well specced as the one you have posted. Perhaps if you look at a standard C63S you could use the money saved to pay for a remap from a reputable specialist such as MSL and win on both counts.
 
Hi guys, I'm thinking of buying an edition 1 and have a few questions. It has carbon ceramic brakes and was wondering is there any way in the system to check the remaining estimated life (I can do this in my M4) and also whether the current prices are realistic? The book price on the one I'm looking at is £14k lower than the current selling price/current trade in is £24k lower so don't want to commit financial suicide at current prices.

Also as its nearly out of warranty I was thinking of a motoreasy one for about £1k a year - anyone have any experience of them with an AMG? Thanks

Its a 4 owner car so you would be the 5th something you might want to consider when resale time. the wheels are original but i think they had a big yellow band on them originaly the option code is rxq. warranty from mercedes would cost £1700. hope that helps
 
4 owners in 3 years would put me off, although the low miles is in its favour if it has been serviced properly every year
 
I feel those wheels may have been refurbed/repainted hence the loss of the edition 1 yellow lip
 
https://www.alexandersprestige.co.u...-s-4.0-v8-bi-turbo-edition-1-motorsport-auto/

The car you’re looking at is the C63s Edition Motorsport which has lost its yellow decals ( the dealers other car has them but not RXQ alloys ) and the RXQ alloys have been repainted to remove the 2 yellow bands. Some people don’t like the yellow decals and yellow alloy accents on the Motorsport which is fine, but that’s what visually makes it a “motorsport” and not a Magno Grey C63s (which is a fine car in its own right). I’m sure the dealer will up sell it as “much more subtle and a sleeper” if you’re buying and give you the “unfortunately it’s lost its originality without the decals and yellow accents” if you’re trading in. With something “limited” further down the road originality is king. Decals and wheels can be sorted but I’d budget at least £5k as I doubt you would get the oem finish back on those alloys.
 
4 owners in 3 years would put me off, although the low miles is in its favour if it has been serviced properly every year

It wouldn’t put me off , it’s more likely to have been a 2nd or 3rd car used at weekends , garaged and fully maintained by MB, detailed by the guy who does all their other cars before they take them out. Owner has it a few months and then moves onto next car they fancy. I’ve seen a C63 Black Series with 6 owners and 9k miles, the number of owners wasn’t the problem it was Fire Opal Red paint :(
 
Well they weren't for budging on price and no way I'm paying that much over list so on the look out for a standard C63S coupe which to my spec is seeming pretty difficult as I want a HUD and carbon fibre trim and not a great deal of them seem to have both of these :(
 
Well they weren't for budging on price and no way I'm paying that much over list so on the look out for a standard C63S coupe which to my spec is seeming pretty difficult as I want a HUD and carbon fibre trim and not a great deal of them seem to have both of these :(

I was surprised they had taken another Edition 1 Motorsport (probably got it at a good price for them) as the one with the correct decals and stripes has been there months, I test drive it in January. The carbon fibre trim is only on the centre console and you could source from MB or aftermarket, HUD you can’t retrofit but is it a deal breaker?
 
Seems a lot of money for the car but it is lovely. As you mention you have a M4 (guessing it's got the CCB?) there are 3 ways on the M4 to measure the CCB and am sure you could do at least 2 of those on the Merc - wear indicator (little circle), weight of the disc and the thickness? I believe it's not so much the pads but the rotors that are silly money. There are companies in Germany that refurbish the CCB rotors for around £1200-£1500 per disc
 
Well they weren't for budging on price and no way I'm paying that much over list so on the look out for a standard C63S coupe which to my spec is seeming pretty difficult as I want a HUD and carbon fibre trim and not a great deal of them seem to have both of these :(
Hi there, there's a nice c63s coupe at Zenith performance in selenite grey. Give Bally a call 01902 471714,they specialize in amg's, he might be able to help you out. I've had my last couple of cars from them great guys and exellent product knowledge and great service.
 
A 360 degree camera is also a good option to have especially when it comes to parking.
 
A 360 degree camera is also a good option to have especially when it comes to parking.

As a £360 option on the pre facelift cars I can’t understand why anyone would not have ticked that box considering the cost of refurbishing an alloy and how the 360 degree camera system can help avoid it :(
 
As a £360 option on the pre facelift cars I can’t understand why anyone would not have ticked that box considering the cost of refurbishing an alloy and how the 360 degree camera system can help avoid it :(
The amount of c63s coupes that are on sale at the moment that don't have 360 cam is shocking. Like you said the cost of refurbing an alloy and the way the 360 camera works is worth the money. I'm surprised that the salesman at the time would have advised customers that it should be an option that should be ticked as it was a low cost option.
 
Unfortunately my M4 doesn't have the CBBs and I think the brakes are probably the poorest part of the car for me which is why I was interested in a c63 with them.

I've looked at the Zenith one and if it had carbon fibre interior trim it would have been pretty much my perfect spec. The 360 camera is also a must for me as I have the 'surround view' on my M4 as well as HUD and wouldn't ever want to own a car without both of these now. I didn't realise the 360 camera was such a low cost option, I thought you could only get it as part of the premium plus pack (think that's the case with the facelift anyway) as ideally I wouldn't want a sunroof from the premium plus but need the 360 camera.
 

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