Car Inspection

[DXB]

Im confused... what exactly has happened/

what is DEKA?

 

[Ted]

Perhaps the best tactic would be to go to the dealer who has just repaired the car and , without taking it away , trade it back in to them against another car .

Since they have just repaired it to 'roadworthy' condition , they could not very well argue there was anything wrong with it and ought to give an appropriate trade-in price for a car of similar age and mileage which had not required whatever repairs have just been carried out .

Now THAT would put the MB "£1000 depreciation" to the test!

 

[renault12ts]

Im confused... what exactly has happened/

what is DEKA?

Read this thread, then find the other one by robertjrt.

 

[robertjrt]

We seem to have a lull in the legal proceeding at this time.

I will not take my car back without an inspection and MB will not allow one as MB are concerned that I will require any work or damage to my car
repaired before selling it at auction


Too try to "jolly things along" I have Issued three County Court Claims via the Small Claims Court. Its all available on-line.

When MB's time runs out tomorrow to address the outstanding issues I shall apply for two Injunctions against Mercedes-Benz, one to allow an Inspection the other to have copies of the correspondence between MB and Mondial/the recovery company.

The idea is to try to find more proof that MB knew my car was driven in to their workshop and therefore knew the electrical damage was caused by them, which means, logically, MB committed an offense under the Criminal Law, Conspiracy to Defraud.

I never realised how much fun retirement could be, and I though I was going to be bored, how on earth did I find time too go to work?

 

[hawk20]

We seem to have a lull in the legal proceeding at this time.

I will not take my car back without an inspection and MB will not allow one as MB are concerned that I will require any work or damage to my car
repaired before selling it at auction


Too try to "jolly things along" I have Issued three County Court Claims via the Small Claims Court. Its all available on-line.

When MB's time runs out tomorrow to address the outstanding issues I shall apply for two Injunctions against Mercedes-Benz, one to allow an Inspection the other to have copies of the correspondence between MB and Mondial/the recovery company.

The idea is to try to find more proof that MB knew my car was driven in to their workshop and therefore knew the electrical damage was caused by them, which means, logically, MB committed an offense under the Criminal Law, Conspiracy to Defraud.

I never realised how much fun retirement could be, and I though I was going to be bored, how on earth did I find time too go to work?

I thought the position was that Mercedes Uk are perfectly happy for you to have an inspection done but that the dealer wants you to remove the car from their premises and do the inspection elsewhere after it has been there for 4 years. Isn't that reasonable? It has passed the MOT.

 

[robertjrt]

I thought the position was that Mercedes Uk are perfectly happy for you to have an inspection done but that the dealer wants you to remove the car from their premises and do the inspection elsewhere after it has been there for 4 years. Isn't that reasonable? It has passed the MOT.

Yes, you are quite right, MB want me to take my car away and have it inspected "off site".

My problem is that MB have not been terribly truthful with me and all I have it their "assurance" that my car is roadworthy, err, not good enough, sorry. Once bitten, twice shy.

For all I know the auto box seals have dried out, ditto, all the others. the disks can be warped/rusty as horseshoes, a/c seal gone,hydraulic oil full of moisture, engine full of sludge, battery not holding a charge; none of these items are a part of the MOT.

There is still the question;

Has the original fault, dead on key, been resolved?

 

[219]

I take it the idea of finding another car you like the look of , from their stock , and trading this one back in to them against it , is a non-starter ?

 

[hawk20]

Yes, you are quite right, MB want me to take my car away and have it inspected "off site".

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Yes indeed. So when you said "I will not take my car back without an inspection and MB will not allow one " that was very misleading wasn't it? I hope the evidence you give in court is more accurate than that you post here.

The car has passed an MOT why on earth don't you get your inspectors to drive it off site and inspect it. If all these faults you fear exist they will find them won't they? It looks terribly like you are just trying to put as many obstacles as possible in the way of a resolution of this conflict and intend to make it your life's work. Time to move on.

 

[robertjrt]

I take it the idea of finding another car you like the look of , from their stock , and trading this one back in to them against it , is a non-starter ?

Yes, I did ask and MB said, fudge, fudge, mutter, mutter, cough, err, no.

Which was very brave of them considering that according to MB, in writing, that my car has suffered only nominal depredation as it has not been driven.

It is so rewarding when MB contradict themselves.:bannana:

 

[219]

So , they are refusing to take back a car which has been sold , serviced , repaired and lovingly cared for BY THEMSELVES ......

and yet they expect YOU to take it off their hands !!!

UNBELEIVABLE .

 

[robertjrt]

Yes indeed. So when you said "I will not take my car back without an inspection and MB will not allow one " that was very misleading wasn't it? I hope the evidence you give in court is more accurate than that you post here.

The car has passed an MOT why on earth don't you get your inspectors to drive it off site and inspect it. If all these faults you fear exist they will find them won't they? It looks terribly like you are just trying to put as many obstacles as possible in the way of a resolution of this conflict and intend to make it your life's work. Time to move on.

Misleading, I do not agree. MB want to drive my car away and I decline without condition which MB in turn decline.

Its a good old fashioned "stand off".

As far as my life's work; I have spent a lot of time helping people and animals, Hedgehog rescue for instance, and as an elected Councilor, hence the experience with dealing with bureaucracy, whether a local authority or a large Corporation, the same dog, just a different breed.

Now, when I tackle the NHS that should be interesting and will require the Consent of the High Court. Incompetent doctors should not be allowed to continue claiming their money.

I will not stand silent in the face of injustice no matter what.

 

[robertjrt]

So , they are refusing to take back a car which has been sold , serviced , repaired and lovingly cared for BY THEMSELVES ......

and yet they expect YOU to take it off their hands !!!

UNBELEIVABLE .

Don't you just love Mercedes-Benz!

 

[hawk20]

Yes, I did ask and MB said, fudge, fudge, mutter, mutter, cough, err, no.

Which was very brave of them considering that according to MB, in writing, that my car has suffered only nominal depredation as it has not been driven.

It is so rewarding when MB contradict themselves.:bannana:

Is this strictly true. Isn't it the case that you wanted MB to pay you what the car was worth 4 years ago when the problems arose?

 

[hawk20]

Misleading, I do not agree. MB want to drive my car away and I decline without condition which MB in turn decline.

Its a good old fashioned "stand off".

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What is misleading is that you said MB would not allow an inspection. In fact they have agreed to an inspection.

The problem is that the dealer wants you to take the car off their premises after 4 years there, now it has passed its MOT, and have the inspection done elsewhere. But you will not agree to that.

Isn't that so?

 

[robertjrt]

Is this strictly true. Isn't it the case that you wanted MB to pay you what the car was worth 4 years ago when the problems arose?

Yes, and all my expenses not covered by the Court awarded monies and Costs. I wish to be in the same financial position I was at November 2005 when this whole sorry episode started.

I would remind the readers that it was admitted it Court to the Judge that I was not responsible for the damage to my car by the Barrister representing Mercedes-Benz, the Judge replied; So why are we here?

Yes, quite, why were we at trial before a Judge?

 

[robertjrt]

What is misleading is that you said MB would not allow an inspection. In fact they have agreed to an inspection.

The problem is that the dealer wants you to take the car off their premises after 4 years there, now it has passed its MOT, and have the inspection done elsewhere. But you will not agree to that.

Isn't that so?

Mercedes-Benz will not allow an Inspection of my car at Mercedes-Benz's workshop in Wandsworth. If my car leaves the property of Mercedes-Benz it will not be allowed to return.

This is why I try to avoid speaking to MB and ask for everything in writing
as in conversations confusion can and do arise.

I would like MB to write too tell me that I cannot have my car Inspected
so I can apply to the Court for an Order, so far, no luck, so I will have to apply for an Injunction without it.

Mercedes-Benz have given a few option including an offer to have my car transported to wherever I want, within reason. Thank you, no.

I want to Inspect my Car, not have it driven into the road for me too drive away, what leverage I have drives down the road as well.

 

[hawk20]

Yes, and all my expenses not covered by the Court awarded monies and Costs. I wish to be in the same financial position I was at November 2005 when this whole sorry episode started.

I would remind the readers that it was admitted it Court to the Judge that I was not responsible for the damage to my car by the Barrister representing Mercedes-Benz, the Judge replied; So why are we here?

Yes, quite, why were we at trial before a Judge?

Well I hope you can see that that is very different from posting that they wouldn't take your car in part exchange. Very misleading.

 

[hawk20]

Mercedes-Benz will not allow an Inspection of my car at Mercedes-Benz's workshop in Wandsworth. If my car leaves the property of Mercedes-Benz it will not be allowed to return.

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Well I wonder if the dealer feels that having had your car parked there free for four years while endless disputes and litigation proceed, he is probably a bit loathe to start a whole new cycle especially since you say you are rather enjoying the whole process. Is it possible he might be looking forward to the car off the premises and a chance to get on with normal life?

 

[Ted]

I'm with robertjrt on this.
What is the problem with an on site inspection? They must have the space. If the car is ok then no problem,
Given all that has happenned, surely they would be delighted to demonstrate to robert at their premises, and face to face how good the car is.

Or do they have something to hide?

 

[robertjrt]

I'm with robertjrt on this.
What is the problem with an on site inspection. They must have the space. If the car is ok then no problem,
Given all that has happenned, surely they would be delighted to demonstrate to robert at their premises, and face to face how good the car is.

Or do they have something to hide?

Please remember the reason I had to go to trial before a Judge with a barrister to represent me was" the damage to your car was caused by you or somebody known to you", not true, therefore why should I believe MB when I am informed that my car is "Roadworthy"?

An MOT merely means that at the time of the Test the vehicle reached the minimum standard as required in the regulations.