Done for speeding by mobile camera

[big x]

Rural Wiltshire B road, I'm doing about 50 with 3 or 4 cars in convoy.See the 30 MPH sign so start to brake.The decent into the village is quite steep so even though I see a lens sticking out the back of the small van I can't scrub speed off fast enough without the guy behind hitting me.The van was in such a postion that you only see it coming over the brow of the hill and by that time it's to late.The road beforehand is straight and fast.Miffed but this is tough to avoid.I'm guessing all those behind got away with it.

 

[Rose Chap]

Bad luck old boy. Looks like they got you just after the sign as well - so much for gently slowing down to the speed limit.

And people wonder why respect for the road policing is falling.

Maybe invest in a radar/laser detector and/or a GPS system which warns of speed traps, in situations like this they can pay for themselves quite quickly.

 

[big x]

Bad luck old boy. Looks like they got you just after the sign as well - so much for gently slowing down to the speed limit.

And people wonder why respect for the road policing is falling.

Maybe invest in a radar/laser detector and/or a GPS system which warns of speed traps, in situations like this they can pay for themselves quite quickly.

Would a detector work over the brow of a hill or does it need to be in the line of sight ?
The thing that annoys me is I was taking it easy and the guys behind had all been flying past. You can see in the first pic I'm on the brakes and the area is not built up. Someone like me who had not used the road before is sure to get caught out.

adam

 

[splang]

sure thats you driving and not your wife/partner??

 

[andy_k]

who's driving the car? The photos don't seem that clear.

As for not slowing down enough or in time well, whether or not you'd used the road before or not you must have seen the signs.

Andy

 

[merc man]

lol

sure thats you driving and not your wife/partner??

thats a good one , it could be a mate from a 3rd world country, who lives in a village with no proper postal system. who borrowed your car while you were asleep!

 

[splang]

don't knock it till......


Saw a mobile unit today doing speed checks outside a school in a 30 area. Fair enough and good on 'em I reckon. A good use of mobile units in my opinion. Anyone speeding there and at kick out time need their heads looking at imho.

 

[splang]

Meant to say, my car was caught speeding in a dual carriage way 7mph over limit. I defended it and haven't heard anything back - that was 11months ago....

:bannana: :bannana: :bannana: :bannana:

 

[mioba]

the guys in mobile are fcukers, they know exactly where to catch drivers speeding, and usually as in this case its not because of the driver but becasue of the road itself, ie on a hill

 

[scotth_uk]

Big X,

Proud of you for taking the fine and not complaining too much. Sensible man.

 

[Parrot of Doom]

Immediately go to www.pepipoo.com and post this information there.

You don't have to settle for this bull****. There are tried and tested methods of defending yourself.

Trust me, go to that site and take their advice. Its run by the guy who is currently appealing this: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?t=321606&f=10&h=0

 

[Rose Chap]

Would a detector work over the brow of a hill or does it need to be in the line of sight ?

Many detectors detect both radar and laser emissions. The device the policeperson used to nab you would have used laser, and this works on line of sight - as does the detection. In practice you'd get very little warning about this as although the detector would pick up the laser beam and alert you, the nature of laser beams means that if this happens your car is being targetted. Judicious application of the brakes might be necessary, unless that would result in a nasty bit of rear end action.

Gatso cameras use radar and normally a detector will pick up and alert if it receives radar signals in the right frequency over a certain strength, increasing its alerts as the signal gets stronger. Whilst this can lead to many false alarms through towns (automatic doors use radar as well), they do in my experience go mental when approaching a live gatso.

A few years I fell foul of a policeperson with a laser gun (a fair cop guv' etc) and then went out and purchased one of these.

Its definitely useful when driving around unfamiliar areas where the location of the cameras aren't known.

The GPS based devices don't detect emissions at all, there merely alert you when you near either a speed camera or known speed trap location. I think the databases are kept fairly up to date so these devices are pretty reliable. Of course the ultimate would be to have both a detector and a GPS based alert, but that would be overkill somewhat.

I hope this all works out well for you in the end.

 

[blassberg]

Judicious application of the brakes might be necessary, unless that would result in a nasty bit of rear end action.

if big x really - I mean really - couldn't slow down to the speed limit without causing a rear-end shunt then I would use that in my defense

 

[GordonTarling]

The obvious question is - how do you KNOW the person behind would have rear-ended you?

 

[BTB 500]

The GPS based devices don't detect emissions at all, there merely alert you when you near either a speed camera or known speed trap location. I think the databases are kept fairly up to date so these devices are pretty reliable.

Tom Tom send out fairly frequent updates to mobile camera locations which are picked up via bluetooth (if you subscribe to their camera database and have a phone enabled) and applied immediately. Obviously it's not as good as a detector, but potentially quite useful.

RADAR/Laser detectors are illegal in many European countries I think? There was a lot of talk about this happening in the UK, but not heard any more so I guess this isn't on the cards now.

 

[dougal74]

Would be interesting if you could reasonably gauge the distance travelled between the two images and with the official time stamp calculate your average speed over that distance. If it significantly lower that the 41mph recorded you could have grounds to appeal (in addition to the car behind you being "threatening")!
Of course if your view is fair cop - then I applaud you. There is a hill and 60-30 change like that in Wingham and it is really difficult to slow down even when braking hard.

 

[andy_k]

There is a hill and 60-30 change like that in Wingham and it is really difficult to slow down even when braking hard.

then start braking a bit earlier

These signs at the side of the road are usually pretty high visibility being made of a reflective white background with a red border and all that, they are hardly hiding them.

if your reactions to speed limit signs are that slow, or your spatial awareness so poor that you don't see them then quite honestly you shouldn't be driving as fast as you are.


Andy

 

[jeremytaylor]

Would a detector work over the brow of a hill or does it need to be in the line of sight ?

adam

The detector on my Origin B2 has saved my licence in the past.

Once, I couldn't see the dark blue Volvo estate parked on the hard shoulder of the A3 in dusk, because of its colour and other cars, but my B2 lit up like a Christmas Tree.

Recommended.

 

[COUPE FREAK]

thought any camera had to be in plain sight for at least 200 yards ?,, was this the case with you,?

 

[big x]

thought any camera had to be in plain sight for at least 200 yards ?,, was this the case with you,?

You can see the distance printed on the picture,the brow of the hill is behind the sign.
On the Wiltshire Police website the calibration certificate of the gun used is shown at 25,50 and 100 metres but not at my distance which is well over that..So....I wonder if that is a get out possibility ?
The thing is I don't want to go all the way to Wilshire for a court appearence if they can then produce closer frames.Note the frame(NR) numbering sequence.
I just wish I had been in the bomber stream,it's always the lead plane of the formation or tail end charlie that buys it !

adam