Driver Caught At 145mph on M6 Toll

[developer]

Absolutely shocking...

Fancy having cameras on a private motorway where you've paid good money to give your pride and joy a decent three figure blast .
M6 Toll speeding driver caught at 145mph - Birmingham Mail

 

[automaniaman]

Outrageous...

 

[Hawkwind]

Damn! I thought that was the one stretch where you could let rip and no cameras (if it was indeed a camera).

Of course it was sooo dangerous he must have died in a tangled ball of flames and twisted metal?.....What no?

Oh yes I forgot, the highway code was written and speed limits set when dinosaurs roamed the planet and the average car was, let me think ......a Morris Minor.

 

[Giantvanman]

Sarah Sillars, IAM chief executive officer,

“It is also impossible to handle corners, gradients, street furniture and junctions with any effectiveness. In short, all these individuals are playing with their own lives and others – they are all accidents waiting to happen and it requires a major shift in the attitudes of these people to think about safety.”

Thus proving the point that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. And that power corrupts. Bless her. Emphatically impossible. Pah, the half-trained glory hungry half-wit that she is chose her words very poorly in this instance and dented her credibility severely by jumping on the bandwagon.

 

[Giantvanman]

Addendum: Ms Sillars rhetoric reminds me of a conversation I listened to whereby two traffic police inspectors where, completely inappropriately, discussing a matter that had taken place with regards to a traffic sergeant. The erstwhile experts were condemning out of hand said sergeant's driving because he had triggered a traffic light camera at, if memory serves me correctly, about 86mph at about 2am in a 30mph limit. Scandalous. Dangerous. We will have to hang him or at least throw him out of traffic!

I bided my time and took my opportunity by respectfully (not really but decorum and standards have to be maintained) making these points:

Although a 30mph limit, it was a dual carriageway with a central reservation.
Being 2am, there was likely little traffic on the road.
The junction is a T-junction emerging from the left.
It is controlled by ATS.
It is a well known junction often travelled so familiarity is high.
Being dark, the secondary light controlling traffic exiting the junction is clearly visible.
And if you time it correctly, it is perfectly safe to travel through the junction at that speed. In fact, I suspected that he was only doing 86mph because he was a class 2 advanced whilst I had gone through there at well over a hundred many times because I was a class 1.

And the coup de grass was; are you both still class 4 panda drivers authorised to ferry our cars only?

There endeth the conversation and strangely enough, the sergeant confirmed that neither had had the temerity to speak to him regarding the matter. Just as well for the two 'experts' because he would not have been as gentle as me.

 

[Simon_M]

Is *** back on the road again then?

 

[balge]

145? Puff.

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[John Jones Jr]

Damn! I thought that was the one stretch where you could let rip and no cameras (if it was indeed a camera).

I was flat out there back in 2007, never heard a thing. Maybe there was no cameras operating at the time, it's very possible as I'm sure they didn't want to hinder use and revenue on a new toll road.


P.s. I better add, it was a summer evening, dry, bright, very light traffic and best of all the car talking to me...

 

[ChrisA]

I may have to keep it below 170 now

 

[itaintemeyouno]

Types of cars and speed limits have little relevance. What has more relevance is the 12 inches of matter behind the wheel. Sp speed limits aren't arbitrary to one person, but to an 'average' standard. So many of us think we are good enough drivers to drive at 100mph+ If you could self assess whether you are good enough to drive over a certain speed and were given different coloured number plates according to your abilities, how many people would volunteer to have the one rated for least quick driving owing to them thinking they aren't all that great at driving?

some speed limits are ridiculously slow - others on other roads are ridiculously fast for the types of roads. I've just come over Honister Pass in the Lake District - arguably the easiest of all the famous single track passes in the lakes. The wider road before the pass has a 20 mph speed limit, the single track section NSL - 60mph.

Perhaps the speed limits should be looked at. I would suggest along the following lines:

Motorways - 70mph 6am - 10pm
80mph 10 pm - 6am

Dual Carriageways on Trunk Roads

stays at 70mph for cars
70mph for vans under 3.5t ULW

Dual Carriageways on non trunk A roads

60mph for cars

Single carriageways on A roads

60mph for cars

Single Carriageways on B roads

50mph for cars

Single Track roads with passing places

40mph for cars.

The rationale for differing speed limits for A and B roads?
B roads tend to be narrower so need to be taken with more care.

There is no way that the speed limit for a single track road should be 60mph.

You could say that people should be trusted to assess the road conditions for themselves, but for a sizeable proportion of drivers, I don't think they can be trusted at all. They overestimate their own abilities and assume that just because cars CAN stop quicker now than when the HC was written, that they WILL. There are more distractions than ever and too many drivers allow themselves to be distracted.

 

[def90cars]

I am being too simple.... the limit is the LEGAL limit - you are allowed to drive slower according to conditions.

 

[Howard]

Is *** back on the road again then?

4 months

 

[The _Don]

Is *** back on the road again then?

Who LOL :0)

Wonder if he has lost any weight :0)

 

[artyman]

It is as well to remember that speed limits are maximums, not a target to be achieved, I've frequently driven at less than permitted speeds as I considered it appropriate at the time.

 

[daveenty]

I may have to keep it below 170 now

+VAT Chris.

 

[Giantvanman]

I am being too simple.... the limit is the LEGAL limit - you are allowed to drive slower according to conditions.

No, you are not being too simple and are entirely correct. The issue I have is with people who, because it out-with their ken, training and ability, believe it is okay to jump on bandwagons. Of course most people are not up to driving at such speeds even where legal but not all and to say it is impossible and reel of half-baked and incorrect reasons in an attempt to support the position is pathetic showboating of the lowest order.

 

[ChrisA]

Fixed that for you

Perhaps the speed limits should be looked at. I would suggest along the following lines:

Motorways - 80mph 6am - 10pm
100mph 10 pm - 6am

Dual Carriageways on Trunk Roads

80mph for cars
70mph for vans under 3.5t ULW

Dual Carriageways on non trunk A roads

70mph for cars

Single carriageways on A roads

70mph for cars

Single Carriageways on B roads

60mph for cars

Single Track roads with passing places

150mph for cars.

The rationale for differing speed limits for A and B roads?
B roads tend to be narrower so need to be taken with more speed to allow a decent drift around the corner.

There is no way that the speed limit for a single track road should be 60mph, it should be 150mph as not many users

 

[dozypillock]

Damn! I thought that was the one stretch where you could let rip and no cameras (if it was indeed a camera).

Of course it was sooo dangerous he must have died in a tangled ball of flames and twisted metal?.....What no?

Oh yes I forgot, the highway code was written and speed limits set when dinosaurs roamed the planet and the average car was, let me think ......a Morris Minor.

I believe the actual car used to set the limits back then was a Ford Anglia?
I also believe (believed) that the M6 toll road was a private road, therefore you could do what you wanted? I have also driven it at considerably more than 70 mph in the past (many years ago) and never heard a thing.

Neil

 

[Giantvanman]

I believe the actual car used to set the limits back then was a Ford Anglia?
I also believe (believed) that the M6 toll road was a privately funded road, therefore you could do what you wanted? I have also driven it at considerably more than 70 mph in the past (many years ago) and never heard a thing.

Neil

Fixed that for you. For example, the Limehouse Link Tunnel is not under the purview of the HA because it is private but the Road Traffic Act still applies and tickets can be issued. Anything in the post for the blast to/from the last Bluewater GTG?

 

[dozypillock]

Fixed that for you. For example, the Limehouse Link Tunnel is not under the purview of the HA because it is private but the Road Traffic Act still applies and tickets can be issued. Anything in the post for the blast to/from the last Bluewater GTG?

Nothing yet....Fingers (and toes) still crossed......
Fastest bit was probably on the new A23 as completely empty.
I must admit, I was pleased with the fact that not a single vehicle passed me all the way back to Lancing.
Do you think I would have heard by now?

Neil