Driver Caught At 145mph on M6 Toll

[Deleted member 65149]

Looks nasty

30 vehicles in M40 fatal crash in Oxfordshire - BBC News

Too fast for the conditions perhaps?

 

[ItalianTuneUp]

Another one:

Three dead in coach crash on M1

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-31469329

Looks like the coach driver hit a car parked in the hard shoulder.

 

[F1BHP]

I was always told. If you have a problem and you have to pull over on the motorway. Exit the car and wait for recovery on the other side of the guard rail.

Obviously I don't know what happened in this situation but that is something I will stick to.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

I was always told. If you have a problem and you have to pull over on the motorway. Exit the car and wait for recovery on the other side of the guard rail.

Obviously I don't know what happened in this situation but that is something I will stick to.

Last summer we were travelling to the Isle of Wight on holiday and the traffic stopped on the M40. When it was clear that the traffic wasn't going to start moving again I hopped out to see if I could help.

A lorry had hit the driver of a car parked on the hard should as he was getting out of his car. He gave his last breath as I arrived at his side, and the feeling that I could have done more had I got out of the car sooner has never left me.

Getting out of the car is absolutely the right thing to do if you're stranded on the hard shoulder, but please take care to make sure that you and your passengers do so safely.

 

[John Jones Jr]

Too fast for the conditions perhaps?

Who knows, it would just take one stupid move by somebody even at the right speed for the conditions. Fog & heavy traffic by all accounts along with a few trucks jackknifing for good measure.

Or of course it could have been just caused by some old fossil preoccupied with sticking to the speed limit and oblivious to everything else.

Whatever, driving at the weekends is something I like to avoid, I feel it's far safer doing so during the working week.

 

[Stratman]

Who knows, it would just take one stupid move by somebody even at the right speed for the conditions. Fog & heavy traffic by all accounts along with a few trucks jackknifing for good measure.

Or of course it could have been just caused by some old fossil preoccupied with sticking to the speed limit and oblivious to everything else.

Whatever, driving at the weekends is something I like to avoid, I feel it's far safer doing so during the working week.

Do explain how this would cause 29 other cars to collide.

 

[John Jones Jr]

Do explain how this would cause 29 other cars to collide.

Don't know wasn't there, just like yourself.

 

[Stratman]

Indeed neither of us were there. I was merely intrigued to discover how someone keeping to the speed limit could possibly cause twenty nine other vehicles to collide.

 

[F1BHP]

He was referring to my strange post earlier i think. If you read back you will understand.

 

[DSM10000]

Indeed neither of us were there. I was merely intrigued to discover how someone keeping to the speed limit could possibly cause twenty nine other vehicles to collide.

It is reported as being foggy with severely restricted visibility from people that were involved in this. The speed limit is immaterial, it is the lack of people driving to the conditions that is most likely to be the cause.

We have (probably) all experienced some drivers going past us at significantly faster speeds than we are comfortable with in certain conditions.

As has been discussed in previous threads and indeed studied, perception of risk and danger has been skewed with the advancements in safety technology especially with reference to motor vehicles.

Unfortunately, human failings, of which we are all guilty at times, can lead to the events we have seen on our roads today.

 

[John Jones Jr]

It is reported as being foggy with severely restricted visibility from people that were involved in this. The speed limit is immaterial, it is the lack of people driving to the conditions that is most likely to be the cause.

Exactly , just a pity you needed to spell it out.

 

[DSM10000]

Exactly , just a pity you needed to spell it out.

Our ability to perceive and quantify risk is usually very poor, there was a study some years ago looking at how we perceive the risk from controlled medical exposures to radiation, people will often query these but happily take a number of long-haul flights each year without any consideration to that "risk"

It is all about giving information that is relevant and can be understood in context and also in reinforcing that information.

 

[itaintemeyouno]

Who knows, it would just take one stupid move by somebody even at the right speed for the conditions. Fog & heavy traffic by all accounts along with a few trucks jackknifing for good measure.

Or of course it could have been just caused by some old fossil preoccupied with sticking to the speed limit and oblivious to everything else.

Whatever, driving at the weekends is something I like to avoid, I feel it's far safer doing so during the working week.

More likely to be the former.