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E Class Estate for the Wife

Wow
Boy oh boy have you made some interesting statements

First off your leaking air-bag and yes, that is where my money would go. BUT...... It speaks volumes about your Indie that they could not find this leak, whatever it is and wherever it is. I hope they never charged you for their failure to locate it... Also allowing this leak for any length of time allegedly burns out the compressor so it has to be fixed.

Respect for your thoughts and figures regarding the power of the latest 2 litre engine in the E-class. My wife is the sole driver of our 320Cdi and we recently had a demo E220 Cdi for a week and in the words of my wife, "I hate it!"

Once we turn out of our driveway we have a bit of an incline and boy did that brand new 220 show its lack of power to accelerate up this gentle hill. In comparison, our 320 just takes it in its stride. Now I think it fair to say my wife is not renowned for her 'high' speed wheel spinning driving style. Rumour has it she once overtook a person riding their bicycle but that is just a rumour, but there is NO WAY she will have the 220Cdi. It could be your 200 has more power than the car we had. I don't know but I am hoping the electric motor on the 300e gives my wife driving style the 'get up and go' :) I have told her it has.

V6 or straight-six.
Every bit of research I have done has stated the straight-six is the smoother quieter engine. Has BMW ever wavered away from their silky smooth straight-six? If the E-class V6 was the better engine, why get rid of it? I confess I have never really worried about the economy figures, but we are more than happy with both the power and the economy of the 320Cdi.

I will still say to the author of this thread, the straight six, or V6 are to me the perfect match for this vehicle (I am NOT knocking the V6) and there will always be more than enough power to get you into or out of a sticky situation :)
 
I have been using the same indie for 10 years so a lot of the work on the suspension was not charged for and he cannabilised another S211 for some of the parts. I'm quite happy with the work he did even though the outcome was not what either of us wanted. There is a kit to convert to a conventional set up which is what I was considering before the other issue of the reluctor ring appeared.
I have not owned a V6 diesel so was comparing with cars owned by others that I travelled in - maybe my memory is at fault there.
I think the noticeable difference between the output of the engines of the S211 and S213 is more to do with the torque - 500Nm @1800rpm compared with 400Nm@1600rpm respectively. So significantly more pulling power for the S211 and the better performance going uphill - I've probably not had the S213 long enough to notice yet and the flat Cheshire plain where I live is not much of a challenge.
The S211 was my first diesel experience, so not really surprising that I thought it was noisy especially compared with the V6 petrol of my previous S210 E240 which was very quiet but underpowered.

I agree with you that either the straight 6 or V6 are a good match for the size of car that is the E Class Estate.
 
glojo said:
Wow
Boy oh boy have you made some interesting statements

First off your leaking air-bag and yes, that is where my money would go. BUT...... It speaks volumes about your Indie that they could not find this leak, whatever it is and wherever it is. I hope they never charged you for their failure to locate it... Also allowing this leak for any length of time allegedly burns out the compressor so it has to be fixed.

Respect for your thoughts and figures regarding the power of the latest 2 litre engine in the E-class. My wife is the sole driver of our 320Cdi and we recently had a demo E220 Cdi for a week and in the words of my wife, "I hate it!"

Once we turn out of our driveway we have a bit of an incline and boy did that brand new 220 show its lack of power to accelerate up this gentle hill. In comparison, our 320 just takes it in its stride. Now I think it fair to say my wife is not renowned for her 'high' speed wheel spinning driving style. Rumour has it she once overtook a person riding their bicycle but that is just a rumour, but there is NO WAY she will have the 220Cdi. It could be your 200 has more power than the car we had. I don't know but I am hoping the electric motor on the 300e gives my wife driving style the 'get up and go' :) I have told her it has.

V6 or straight-six.
Every bit of research I have done has stated the straight-six is the smoother quieter engine. Has BMW ever wavered away from their silky smooth straight-six? If the E-class V6 was the better engine, why get rid of it? I confess I have never really worried about the economy figures, but we are more than happy with both the power and the economy of the 320Cdi.

I will still say to the author of this thread, the straight six, or V6 are to me the perfect match for this vehicle (I am NOT knocking the V6) and there will always be more than enough power to get you into or out of a sticky situation :)
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The V6 diesel is so blooming smooth people won’t believe it’s a diesel. I’ve got 2.
 
Thank you all very much, atlas due to having to run around for the Kids we didn't get to look at any but will be doing soon my brother in law still hasn't found another Mercedes yet so i'm still waiting to go over to Belfast to get his old ML 300 2011 for my runaround. I will miss my W220 though.
 
BelfastBill said:
Thank you all very much, atlas due to having to run around for the Kids we didn't get to look at any but will be doing soon my brother in law still hasn't found another Mercedes yet so i'm still waiting to go over to Belfast to get his old ML 300 2011 for my runaround. I will miss my W220 though.
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BelfastBill said:
Thank you all very much, atlas due to having to run around for the Kids we didn't get to look at any but will be doing soon my brother in law still hasn't found another Mercedes yet so i'm still waiting to go over to Belfast to get his old ML 300 2011 for my runaround. I will miss my W220 though.
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Just found this one, can't put the link up but here's the reg, DY 10KCE 350 Avantgarde 2010 130,000 miles one registered owner. anyone on here know this car? and is it a good buy at 5 and a half K ??

Many thanks.
 
BelfastBill said:
Just found this one, can't put the link up but here's the reg, DY 10KCE 350 Avantgarde 2010 130,000 miles one registered owner. anyone on here know this car? and is it a good buy at 5 and a half K ??

Many thanks.
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Don't know the car you've referred to but compared to this one, the price would seem to be very low.


For the one you're considering, I would do a thorough check on current condition, service history etc. Just checked its MOT history - seems to be very good with not many serious advisories over recent tests - mostly worn tyres. Would suggest it's been looked after quite well, mechanically.
 
edgersoldchap said:
Don't know the car you've referred to but compared to this one, the price would seem to be very low.


For the one you're considering, I would do a thorough check on current condition, service history etc. Just checked its MOT history - seems to be very good with not many serious advisories over recent tests - mostly worn tyres. Would suggest it's been looked after quite well, mechanically.
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The one in your link surprised me as it does not look like it has COMAND. Not a deal-breaker as folks nowadays might not want it but for such a nice spec, it seemed 'different'
 
Thanks all, it has command and a good history so I will advise tomorrow how the viewing went.
 
I would try to find a nice facelift 211 built before they started fitting the DPF system, assuming you went for a diesel. That way you avoid any DPF issues!
 
Well we went to view the new E 350 Estate on Friday ,when we got there it looked fine started it and tried to rev it and it only reeved to just under three thousand revs. I asked the salesman about this and he said there was a limiter to stop over reeving. So we took it for a test run and it seemed fine,i then noticed that the drivers side mirror was broken !spoke to the salesman and he said he would get it fixed I then tried the parking sensors and they were faulty. ( Forgot to say that I was told it had a command system but didn't) The wife said she didn't care. We then went back to the dealer and they told us that the vehicle would be ready by Wednesday. Got a call yesterday and the dealer said that the car was stuck in gear and the technicians were not in until today. So I think that I will give it a miss and look for something different.
 
Looking at an E250 Avantgarde 2012 full serviced history 1 owner Sat nav etc. Any views ? They are 201BHP or there abouts which in around the same as my S Class w220 320cdi so wondering what you lot think and is there anything to look out for? Reg LN 12 ODY. Thanks all for your help,don't want to buy a dud for the Missus.
 
I feel the very instant you have a doubt about the car you are viewing, walk away as there are a dozen more out there waiting for you to see. I did note that the vehicle you were looking at did not have COMAND. Trust your eyes and NOT the sales talk.

How do we know when a politician is lying??? Their lips move. The job of a car salesperson is to sell cars, not look after your best interest.

A full service history might not be the same as a full main dealer service history. See the booklet and trust your eyes. test drive the vehicle, draw your own conclusions and if you find ANY problems, I would walk away rather than listen to the pathetic excuses of a salesperson. Why say 'we will fix that before you take delivery'. They are really gambling and hoping you do not notice the car's issues. That salesperson will probably know EXACTLY what is wrong with the car they are trying to shift.
 
BelfastBill said:
Well we went to view the new E 350 Estate on Friday ,when we got there it looked fine started it and tried to rev it and it only reeved to just under three thousand revs. I asked the salesman about this and he said there was a limiter to stop over reeving. So we took it for a test run and it seemed fine,i then noticed that the drivers side mirror was broken !spoke to the salesman and he said he would get it fixed I then tried the parking sensors and they were faulty. ( Forgot to say that I was told it had a command system but didn't) The wife said she didn't care. We then went back to the dealer and they told us that the vehicle would be ready by Wednesday. Got a call yesterday and the dealer said that the car was stuck in gear and the technicians were not in until today. So I think that I will give it a miss and look for something different.
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Run away!!!
 
glojo said:
I feel the very instant you have a doubt about the car you are viewing, walk away as there are a dozen more out there waiting for you to see. I did note that the vehicle you were looking at did not have COMAND. Trust your eyes and NOT the sales talk.

How do we know when a politician is lying??? Their lips move. The job of a car salesperson is to sell cars, not look after your best interest.

A full service history might not be the same as a full main dealer service history. See the booklet and trust your eyes. test drive the vehicle, draw your own conclusions and if you find ANY problems, I would walk away rather than listen to the pathetic excuses of a salesperson. Why say 'we will fix that before you take delivery'. They are really gambling and hoping you do not notice the car's issues. That salesperson will probably know EXACTLY what is wrong with the car they are trying to shift.
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And, if possible, get a OBD scanner to plug in, if you get the chance. You might be either delighted or horrified by what it shows!
 
Well looking at the MOT history,the mileage seems ok,you would have to check the rear tyres make sure they have been changed,when you get tyre warnings on MOT's I always think that the owner is not spending too much on the car so a good service record is needed.
 
BelfastBill said:
Looking at an E250 Avantgarde 2012 full serviced history 1 owner Sat nav etc. Any views ? They are 201BHP or there abouts which in around the same as my S Class w220 320cdi so wondering what you lot think and is there anything to look out for? Reg LN 12 ODY. Thanks all for your help,don't want to buy a dud for the Missus.
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I've got a 2011 E250 Avantgarde Estate and i love it. It's on 100k now with full history - main dealer or specialist, very well looked after. It's not been without expense though! It's had a water pump, suspension compressor, one air bag (and just going in for the other one plus new air lines), engine mounts and gearbox mount plus transmission fluid change though that's a service item. From what i have read these things are not uncommon on cars of this age/mileage so i would see what has been done (if any) already then factor that into the cost as it soon adds up. The mounts transformed the car - i didn't realise they were shot when i bought it, i think the other ones i had driven probably had shot mounts as well! Despite the cost i'm really pleased with it, and you still get an awful lot of car for the money.
 
Gazwould said:
Would you say the mounts wearing out were Stop Start related ?
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I'm not sure - i remember reading a long thread about this and i think the jury was still out! There was a similar thread discussing effect on the timing chain as well. I always disengage stop start but of course i've no idea what the previous owner had done. My thoughts are that stop start most likely contributes to wear of the mounts. They weren't that much to change and i think they normally last 50k miles as a minimum. The main challenge might be determining when to change them as i imagine they get progressively worse but you probably get used to it.
 
What symptoms did you experience ?
 
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