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F1 2019

I always wanted to known how to get lead in a pencil.

Simple but fascinating.
 
IMHO - it seems a lot of docu's these days that could be about complicated things, end up being top level stuff as not to get people switching over, very rare to get in depth technical programs these days - i seem to remember lots of old BBC programs were fairly technical, if not a little "dry" with mr old boff prof and his pipe talking about geological rock squishing in black and white.
 
aj_clc said:
IMHO - it seems a lot of docu's these days that could be about complicated things, end up being top level stuff
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It’s all to pander to the current generation, most of whom seem to have an attention span measured in seconds :(



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McLaren Petrobas deal is terminated according to the press - lets hope that wont affect the excellent progress they have made this year with lack of funds for next year car - it was a £165million 5 year deal finished after 2 by the Brazillian govenment who own Petrobas .
 
aj_clc said:
McLaren Petrobas deal is terminated according to the press - lets hope that wont affect the excellent progress they have made this year with lack of funds for next year car - it was a £165million 5 year deal finished after 2 by the Brazillian govenment who own Petrobas .
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Petronas - Wikipedia

Malaysian according to Wikipedia.
 
a 3rd DRS zone added to mexico - trying to spice up a boring race?

this is what annoys me, people say how exciting some modern F1 races can be - but we must not forget we have DRS zones (and have had for quite a few years) ranging from 1 zone to 3 zones in order to increase overtaking and increase the speed at which cars behind can catch cars in front when they get within 1 second - in the "good old days" there was none of this and instead a wee button on the dash to give a bit more oomph for a second or two at the drivers control at any point in time.
 
aj_clc said:
a 3rd DRS zone added to mexico - trying to spice up a boring race?

this is what annoys me, people say how exciting some modern F1 races can be - but we must not forget we have DRS zones (and have had for quite a few years) ranging from 1 zone to 3 zones in order to increase overtaking and increase the speed at which cars behind can catch cars in front when they get within 1 second - in the "good old days" there was none of this and instead a wee button on the dash to give a bit more oomph for a second or two at the drivers control at any point in time.
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I used to love F1 and never missed a race. I never watch it these days - just boring. They've taken the drivers out of it - all controlled by computers from tactics to overtaking to the way the car runs and team orders......pointless.
 
Rorywquin said:
I used to love F1 and never missed a race. I never watch it these days - just boring. They've taken the drivers out of it - all controlled by computers from tactics to overtaking to the way the car runs and team orders......pointless.
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Team orders have been there since the start. The lead driver even had the option of taking his team mate's car!
I'd love to know when these halcyon days were F1 was more interesting and when anybody could win a race. As far as I can remember it has typically been the case that a dominant driver in a dominant car was... dominant, with the best of the rest fighting over the scraps. It's no different in MotoGP where everyone waxes lyrical about the 'racing', when Mr Marquez has pretty much dominated events in recent years leaving others to pick up the minor places.

I do however agree that there is too much off-track analyse going on during a race. In my view the boys in the factory should go home after everyone is done with FP2. There should be no 'factory' analysis for the car or strategy for the rest of the race weekend. The race team should make all decisions from the start of FP3 onwards. it would also help if the teams could only communicate with the driver via the pit-board. I certainly don't think we the viewing public need to hear the drivers whinging about various things during the race over the radio.
 
Renault's Daniel Ricciardo and Nico Hulkenberg disqualified from Japanese GP for use of 'driver aid'

The Stewards' full response to Racing Point protest
1. The rear brake controller software used by Renault is an integral part of the control system referred to in Article 11.9 FIA Formula One Technical Regulations. As such, it is used in compliance with Article 11.1.3 and 11.1.4 of the FIA Formula One Technical Regulations.

2. The described control system is not pre-set, lap distance-dependent as alleged.

3. Renault drivers use buttons mounted on the steering wheel to control brake balance in compliance with Article 8.6.3 FIA Formula One Technical Regulations. These are connected to the FIA Standard ECU.

4. Given the above, the Stewards conclude that while Renault used innovative solutions to exploit certain ambiguities in the Technical Regulations and other supporting documents, their system does not breach any current Technical Regulation.

5. However, although legal under the FIA Formula 1 Technical Regulations, as noted above, the Stewards find the Renault system constitutes a driver aid and is, therefore, not in compliance with Article 27.1 FIA FOrmula 1 Sporting Regulations, which requires the driver to drive the car alone and unaided.The brake balance adjustment system in question acts as a driver aid, by saving the driver from having to make a number of adjustments during a lap. The Stewards note that there is a clear distinction between this system and one which provides actual feedback control, which could be a substitute for driver skills or reflexes. Nevertheless, it is still an aid and, therefore, contravenes Article 27.1 FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations."
 
aj_clc said:
"exploit certain ambiguities in the Technical Regulations "
FIA rules in a nutshell init.
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But that is part of motorsport and has always been thus! If you are not exploiting the regulations to the maximum in a battle to make the cars go quicker, you are not doing your job.
The regulation makers are in a constant battle to contain some of the brilliant (and some downright devious!) minds in the sport.

I've been on both sides of the fence and, as in all walks of life, new technology normally outpaces the regulations which endeavour to restrain it.
 
For clarification, the regulations are in two sections which must be read in tandem.
The tech regs specify how the car must be, and the sporting regs tell you what you are allowed to do with it.

In this case, they are found guilty of not allowing the driver to 'drive alone and unaided'
The same regulation which requires them to 'instigate' gear shifts with the paddles and not have fully auto gearboxes.
 
I don't know if it still the case, but if I recall correctly the F1 regulations used to be written in French for one half of the book and again in English in the other half (flip the book over and read from the 'back'). Some phrases in French can be interpreted in different ways to the equivalent English phrase. So one could choose whichever language version of a particular regulation that gave an advantage however tiny.
 
GeeJayW said:
I don't know if it still the case, but if I recall correctly the F1 regulations used to be written in French for one half of the book and again in English in the other half (flip the book over and read from the 'back'). Some phrases in French can be interpreted in different ways to the equivalent English phrase. So one could choose whichever language version of a particular regulation that gave an advantage however tiny.
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Yes quite correct! However now despite the FIA being based in Paris (and Geneva) English has become the language of Technology and the FIA have reluctantly adopted this. All the meetings are in English and despite the howls of protest from all the French based F1 teams (err...none!) the regulations are now in English.
 
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