How does a Newbie start detailing?

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Pitts Pilot

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As a recent owner of a Metallic Black 2007 SL350 with Black leather upholstery and trim, I would like to learn how to care for the appearance of my ‘new’ car, and establish an appropriate cleaning and waxing regime for it.

I have read with stunned amazement the unbelievably good guide that ‘Detailed’ has posted, and there is no question at all that he is the uber top man for the job. But at the same time “Rome was not built in a day” and I’m sure he has been detailing his cars for several years to have accumulated such a comprehensive repository of knowledge, both for workmanship and products, etc.


In total contrast, I am starting at first base (holding a couple of buckets & sponges) and need some vital ‘newbie’ advice as to how to keep my new MB is top cosmetic condition, with a view to regular weekly washing by the car wash boys on the High Street, who jet wash first, then soapy mitt it down, jet wash again applying a spray on liquid ‘wax’, and finish with a leather to dry it.

I do not know whether the above procedure is good, bad or ugly, but I’m coming from an ancient history (20 years ago) when putting company cars through the local petrol station rollers was the norm! (Is that loud screaming I can hear from you?) :doh:

Anyway, I would not dream of abusing the paintwork on a car I actually owned, hence the ‘hand jet-wash in the High Street’.

I have asked a professional firm of car valets to inspect the car next week with a view to obtaining their advice and doing a one-stage mechanical polish and paint enhancement (about 5 hours) on the metallic black paintwork, and then finish with a decent wax or sealant. (We have pigeons around here that love purple berries... Their Sh1t can strip the lacquer off the bonnet in 48 hours!

Anyway, before this guy comes round and inevitably gives me some ‘self serving’ advice, I would really appreciate your comments as to what kind of regular programme I need to start adopting, and what chemicals and products I should be using for the paintwork and the black leather interior. I can only dream of detailing like ‘Detailed’ demonstrated, so instead I need some “How to get started” advice to point me in the right direction. I want to avoid those simple mistakes that you take for granted, but I’m ignorant about!

I should say at this stage that I am thinking of buying a random orbital polisher (say a Sealey ER230P Car Polisher 230mm Disc, 90w 240v (See Sealey ER230P Car Polisher 230mm Disc 90w 240v : Tooled-Up.com) purely to apply wax or sealant and buff it off. Polishing, as I understand it, is something you do once or twice, with a fine cutting paste.

As a ‘disabled’ person with a blue badge, the sheer physical effort of doing it all by hand would knacker me, so the electrical buffer would be great if possible? What size buffer and accessories would you recommend?

The car was purchased from a MB main dealership and it seems to me that they buffed it up to a shine, and then left it at that. (Presumably this is fairly standard?). Anyway, when I ran my fingers across the bonnet there are no tiny spots or surface imperfections that might indicate contamination and the need for a clay clean. I guess the buffing took care of that? It was very smooth and in good condition (and has only 21K miles on the clock).

So, with access to a jet spray, and the prospect of an electric random orbital buffer, and some money to spend sensibly, how would you get me started, and what chemicals and products would you recommend? It’s metallic black paintwork with a black standard leather interior.

Thanks.

PS. The leather seats and trim have probably not had any TLC since they rolled off the Stuttgart production line in early 2007 :(
 
Don't overdo the cutting paste as by the name it will wear down your paintwork. Instead use a good quality Carnauba wax while your car is new. When you are washing it, use the 2 bucket method to make sure your washing glove is clean. I wouldnt use the sponges as this could make swirl marks in the paintwork. Get a lambswool wash mitt and use this instead.
 
Thanks for the pointers :)

What product lines do you recommend?

Most say Meguiar's are top-of-the-range, whilst others suggest AutoGlym as a mid priced alternative. Both brands seem to have an extensive range of products.

Any personal preferences?

Thanks
 
Hello

Thank you for your kind words. As your in london I would suggest using an internet based company called Elite car care. There website is as follows:

www.elitecarcare.co.uk

The guy who owns elite is called Alex, we are really good friends and im sure he will sort you out a deal if you let him you know me. Elite car care is based in maidenhead and can also be used as a walk in detailing shop. Not many detailing websites allow to walk in but elite is, so its like a shop;)

imho, I would keep away from hand wash companies. Sooner or later there will be a time where they didnt quite take as much care as you want. Your walk out into the sun and see your once nice black paint covered in swirls and holograms. This arnt just created by dirty mitts, but cheap products and bad wash techniq. Your best off washing the car twice a month properlly yourself. At least then the car and consideration is kept and the car is more likely to stay in top condition.

With dual action polishers, they are great for removing holograms and buffer trails, but taking scratches and heavy swirls on VAG paint is going to be a problem. Im not ruling out it cant be corrected with a d.a. I mean I fully corrected my 32AMG with a d.a. once, but then it just had light swirls on it when I bought it. So if I were you dont worry about compounds and polishes and just use the d.a. for pre wax cleaner fluids (polish applied before wax) and refining paintwork with polymer sealants (thats a chemically made paint protection)

So below are my basic recommendations in order:

Buckets-These are great, concrete build quality and come complete with grit guards and lids.

http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/grit-guard-plus-bucket-set.php

Mitts-Buy two. A nice lambswool one for the top half of your car and a dark one for the lower half. We all know the lower half of your car gets really dirty so you dont want to contaminate the dirt onto your nice mitt. As when you next come to clen your car thens going to still have alot of dirt in it which will get transferred to the top half of your car and swirl it up.These are the two I use day to day:

http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/dodo-juice-supernatural-wash-mitt-the-short-haired-wookie.php

http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/optimum-opti-mitt-wash-mitt.php

Next you want a decent shampoo. My personal favourite for everyday use is dodo juice supernatural. Its ph neutral, lasts forever as you need 2-3 pumps per bucket and isnt too foamy. Which is great for black paint in warm sunny weather. A great shampoo for all temperature and light conditions.

http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/dodo-juice-supernatural-shampoo-500ml.php

While im on the subject shampoo, if anyone is after an amazing shampoo which is cheap but performs with the best shampoos I have ever used this is what you want. Love the stuff:

http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/3m-car-shampoo-473ml.php

Then you want a nice dryuing towel. This one is a full 70/30 drying towel so is the most absorbant and the softest:

http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/elite-xl-ultra-plush-deep-pile-drying-towel-60x90cm.php?cPath=64

Then if you would like an everyday polish that can be used on the paint, wheels and exhaust, then look no further. Perfect to prep paintr and wheels for sealant or wax, and has enough bite to remove holograms, trails and light swirls (if used on a dual action polisher)

http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/dodo-juice-lime-prime-lite-pre-wax-cleanser-500ml.php

if you want to apply it by hand applicator then these are great:

http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/dodo-juice-basics-of-bling-finger-wax-applicator-single.php

then you want a low lint microfibre to remove polishers so these are great:

http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/elite-wonder-glass-polishing-towel.php?cPath=64

Then your proberlly better off getting a protection that is durable on paint and wheels. So in my personal oppinion, the best sealant as an all rounder that lasts, is easy to use and great on wheels and paint. That doesnt break the bank, is this:

http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/dodo-juice-supernatural-hybrid-paste-sealant-100ml.php?cPath=89

Then to buff this paste sealant off these are by far the best wax removal towels I have ever used:

http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/elite-ultra-plush-deep-pile-buffing-towel.php?cPath=64

This I would say is the basics, apart from maybe adding some tyre dressing. This would be my choice for durability and its lovely matte finish:

http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/gtechniq-t1-tyre-and-trim-250ml.php

If you do end up looking into polishers then this is a nice little kit. It comes with menzerna polishes which were originally engineered for tough mercedes paint.

http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/kestrel-das-6-menzerna-polishing-kit.php?cPath=71

http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/kestrel-das-6-pro-menzerna-polishing-kit-medium-hard-paint.php?cPath=71

Hope this all helps and if you need anymore im hear with an ear;)

Cheers

Mike
 
Exceptionally helpful advice Mike, I've never opened so many links in my browser before!

Elite look like a very professional outfit, so I'll give them a call (mention your name) and pop down to Maidenhead and have a good look around with my wallet in hand!

Thanks again for all the info, I'm still digesting it!

Cheers, Rob
 

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