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I.C.E versus hybrid

Pretty sure I read that one of the big megabuck electric Audis has drum rear brakes.
If discs aren't needed (EVs with re-gen braking, light cars) then drums are the better option (less corrosion prone - especially when at rear underworked and overcooled - better/easier parkbrake).
 
Yep....but the Dacia is not an EV.

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I'm watching this thread with interest now as wife is getting antzy about replacing our S204 C220 that we've had since March 2012, is now 15 years old and has 125K on the clock. Also has cosmetic paintwork problems and have today found that what I expected to be a front brake pads replacement (about £160) is in fact a rear brake caliper and discs plus pads and will cost north of £600!! Personally I do not want to sell the S204, it's such a comfortable and practical car, has loads of toys some of which we've upgraded (reversing camera, front parking sensors, Comand HDD update for latest/last maps), full leather and 45 or better MPG, but wife says it's now too big for us geriatrics (especially for her to drive/park) and the cosmetics really annoy her but would cost at least £1k to fix. Man maths says fix the S204 problems and keep it, woman (no maths for her!!) says it has to go!

Investigation (second hand, <£20k) so far suggests contenders are Toyota RAV4 and auris, MG HS, MB B class and GLA, all petrol and auto. Have discounted the Toyota C-HR as the auto is CVT, likewise the Dacias. Still have to investigate the Kia Niro, Hyundai Kona, Ford Puma and Renault Captur
 
Is a Toyota Aygo X too small? , elevated driving position , petrol and auto available , funky little cars
 
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Too small I'm afraid
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Ok , how about its bigger brother the Yaris cross
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Possibly, I'm not familiar with them, I will try to see one in real life if I get a chance. If it's much smaller than the CHR or Captur then it'll be a no.
 
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Have discounted the Toyota C-HR as the auto is CVT,
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Have you/she driven one?
They are nothing like a ‘traditional’ cvt.
Yes, they are different to a normal gearbox - not in a bad way, just different - and this really demands an extended test drive.
Under normal driving you would be hard pressed to tell the difference orher than being very smooth. It’s when you give it the beans that the revs go up - it’s really similar to being in sports mode on a normal automatic.
I can understand why some people might not like it, but you very quickly get used do driving in ‘sport’ mode and it quickly becomes the new norm.
 
Have you/she driven one?
They are nothing like a ‘traditional’ cvt.
Yes, they are different to a normal gearbox - not in a bad way, just different - and this really demands an extended test drive.
Under normal driving you would be hard pressed to tell the difference orher than being very smooth.


You used the word "different" Ted and for some that's enough to totally dismiss it. 🙂
 
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Have discounted the Toyota C-HR as the auto is CVT, likewise the Dacias. Still have to investigate the Kia Niro, Hyundai Kona, Ford Puma and Renault Captur
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C-HR auto is fine. CVTs are OK as long as the drivetrain as a whole is setup properly. The C-HRs that I have driven have been fine to drive - any complaints I have are more down to the car as a package and the fuel economy. (I had a moan about the Juke CVT in an earlier post - it was easy to drive but the setup of the car was such that the car would struggle as if down on power on hills and overtaking unless revved absurdly hard).

I would be a bit more wary of the DCT style boxes rather than CVTs for a driver using the car in suburban and urban driving- the clutched transmissions tend to be fine on the move but there's a bit more variability in how consistent they are when they creep and how smoothly they apply power to front wheels as they pull away.
 
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Ok , how about its bigger brother the Yaris cross
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That is what I have just bought. Not new, 2 years old with 9k miles. 1.5litre petrol hybrid, 64mpg and surprisingly more MPG driving in town, sometimes as high as 90mpg. Taller that the Yaris saloon and the CHR and taller than my old Nissan Qashqai. Had it now 2 months and filled up once (36 litre tank) so not a lot of money to fill up.
 
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I'm watching this thread with interest now as wife is getting antzy about replacing our S204 C220 that we've had since March 2012, is now 15 years old and has 125K on the clock. Also has cosmetic paintwork problems and have today found that what I expected to be a front brake pads replacement (about £160) is in fact a rear brake caliper and discs plus pads and will cost north of £600!! Personally I do not want to sell the S204, it's such a comfortable and practical car, has loads of toys some of which we've upgraded (reversing camera, front parking sensors, Comand HDD update for latest/last maps), full leather and 45 or better MPG, but wife says it's now too big for us geriatrics (especially for her to drive/park) and the cosmetics really annoy her but would cost at least £1k to fix. Man maths says fix the S204 problems and keep it, woman (no maths for her!!) says it has to go!

Investigation (second hand, <£20k) so far suggests contenders are Toyota RAV4 and auris, MG HS, MB B class and GLA, all petrol and auto. Have discounted the Toyota C-HR as the auto is CVT, likewise the Dacias. Still have to investigate the Kia Niro, Hyundai Kona, Ford Puma and Renault Captur
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And Honda Civic shirley?
 
Getting a 2023 low mileage petrol car is a waste (depreciation). Buy a car that's 3 years old and has actually been through an MOT. Simple, petrol only, no hybrid. Any 1 owner car kept for 3 years with a full electronic service history and record of main dealer invoices would be a better bet than a new car.
 
MikeInWimbledon said:
What does she want to use it for?

Why get rid of the Captur? Great little car for someone approaching their Seventies.

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Yes, the obvious solution. Interesting that she’s prepared to plug in a car at home to give her a 25 mile range but not a 250 mile range.

It’s her call as to why she doesn’t save herself a couple thousand by buying a 2022 with 5k on the clock..

Salesmen are struggling to hit targets for the year, so prices are soft in Winter. If you can be bothered to ask for £2k off the advertised price, she’ll get it.
 
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It's not a plugin hybrid as far as I know, I'm also sure she will haggle the price. The age of the car is important to her as the current car is 2016 with just shy of 40,000 miles.
 
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