Just got stopped for "speeding"

[Benzowner]

I think this only goes to show that the local bobby is now extinct. Had the officer been local, this would not have happened but because of the way the system now seems to be set up, officers from 20 miles away are brought in to police the locals What they should do is get rid of most of the cars they have and put the police back on bikes or walking the loacl area. Just my opinion.

 

[recycled]

I continually read Recycled posts and they tend to have a theme?



I have tried to figure out what is being implied but have failed miserably.

John

John nothing is bein implied. I hate bent coppers and bent traffic coppers or anyone that is bent period.
Worse still if that person is in law enforcement
A lot are very nice and i have three friends who are coppers,
i know of your experience, i also have history so lets just leave it as that.

If someone stops you for speeding, finds out you are not speeding and then starts looking around for other offences like tyres and tax smells of trying to save face and prove that he/she is in charge.

If a copper and a lone man appear in public and we are told by the copper that he caught the guy at 2:00am drink driving, i am sure the whole country will believe the police.
Just remember police are also human beings and are affected by every other thing that affects humans.
If most times the police can not tell who drives their cars whenever one of their officers gets reported for dangerous driving or speeding, why do companies that probably have more cars than the police be expected to do that?
Bad eggs are everywhere so be careful.

A copper that has just been banned from every pub in town for fighting has just been moved to the firearm unit and now carries a gun. how responsible is that.

Like i said i am sure the good one are more than the rotten ones but we shall know in time.

 

[glojo]

I still maintain if someone is going to tell you off and fine you/ give you demerit points for doing somethnig wrong they should be 100% correct of it in the first place.

!00% correct, by crikey I wish that could be so when dealing with the human factor? Perhaps when we work in IT where things MIGHT be on, or off, then black is black, white is white but most folks on this forum will think they are good drivers and it is always someone else's fault. !00% fault or 100% innocence is not going to happen in 100% of cases.

If I collide with a car that has gone through a red traffic light, am I 100% innocent? I would say "NO"???? And to try to overcome the screams of protest, read the Highway Code, the booklet we should all be fully conversant with.

I would very respectfully suggest there would NOT have been a problem if the officer that stopped Andy had been more mature\switched on, situationally aware (he might have seen the signs) and perhaps Andy had not been Andy I say that bit with the utmost respect for my very good friend. It is possible that Andy was mistaken over the National Speed Limit sign? He wasn't, and his statement was confirmed. He was owed an apology, the officer should have thanked Andy for 'politely' drawing this fact to his attention and the icing on the cake would have been an assurance by the officer that stepos would be taken to pick on Andy for the rest of his driving career. Ooops sorry, typo. Steps will be taken to get the council to make the sign more visible.

We are all quick to criticise and come up with a theoretical option, but we NEED the Police, we need the Police to be more 'user friendly' I wonder why this galah behaved in the manner he did? I wonder what has made him behave in the manner he did? I wonder how he has been treated by the public? Solely on what we have read, there is not much that can be said in defence of this officer but I do believe respect is a two way requirement and I am positive the police are regularly being subjected to shed loads of abuse? This is not a reason to behave in a similar fashion, but perhaps this officer was not 100% perfect?

As my old sergeant always used to say, "You only get the service you deserve!"

Regards
John

 

[glojo]

If someone stops you for speeding, finds out you are not speeding and then starts looking around for other offences like tyres and tax smells of trying to save face and prove that he/she is in charge.

Hi Recycled I fully understand the above point and I agree it is a regular full back. Yes we both have had bad experiences, but I'm sure the Police do not get a commission on tickets, do not take money from drivers and most important it is only a minuscule percentage of police that might be corrupt?

I tend to stick up for our police because they have a thankless task and are usually unable to defend themselves. I am not a regular viewer of 'fly on the wall' police programs but when I do watch a brief clip, I am appalled at the abuse our thin blue line is subjected to. How would we react if someone treated us in a similar manner and WHY should the police have to tolerate such offensive behaviour?

Andy had a bad experience and I hope the officer can learn from it, but would this person have made any financial gain by reporting the driver? (even if he had been speeding) I would very respectfully suggest not and would love to hear from anyone that disagrees.

Thankfully you and I are friends and this is NOT personal, it is merely me trying to figure out how money might influence a police officer's decision?

Have a great day and take care
Yours sincerely
John

 

[recycled]

As my old sergeant always used to say, "You only get the service you deserve!"

Regards
John

The attitude of most police men i have come across is that they are doing you a favour not a service, not to be questioned and generally can not be bothered.
Now the ones you have met may be spot on but as time goes on i will give you some conversations of trafic stops on me by the fuzz.
how i have not being banned from driving yet is beyond me..

I was accused of making an illegal u turn at the end of my friends residential street at 2:00 am in the morning by the cops. the street is bare of signs or yellow lines and it is a close .
How i was supposed to go back is beyond me.
After giving me a severe talking to and wasting my time for 20 mins while he "checked me out" i was luckily let off by them never to do it again and that i should be thankfull.

 

[recycled]

Nothing personal mate never between us.
I agree the coppers get loads of abuse. i have never abused one cos i know they are out for me anyway but i have reported a lot.
But they have brought most of it on themselves beause people are getting frustrated with the way crime is being tackled in this country and as a principled force, it is up to them to tell the politicians what needs doing right and get it sorted.

I am not too sure they do not gain financially either.
maybe not as individual cops, but as a force/constabulary we need to check on that.
As for promotions/ incentives we need to check on that as well.

Anyway have a nice day, i need to run off now to earn some keep.
Thanks my good friend

 

[andy_k]

as promised here's a photo

now bear in mind, that these signs are positioned at the exit of a long bend at the end of a fairly twisty section of 40mph.

They are incredibly easy to miss

and yes,

I know,

my car is filthy

 

[Dieselman]

I wouldn't submit that photo to the Police, they will book you for dumping a car and causing a carriageway obstruction.

 

[andy_k]

tee hee Dieselman - it's parked (almost) on someones drive

 

[Rose Chap]

You're lucky its NSL at all.

Round here stretches of road with far better visibility than that have had their limits reduced to 50 and 40, and even 30 in some cases.

Regarding your original post, I wouldn't report the policeman per se, but I would write a letter to the Chief Constable highlighting the risks of the council not performing their roadside maintenence duties citing your experiences as an example. What is it we (you) pay council tax for?

The councils need to keep their hedges trimmed!

 

[andy_k]

it used to be a much longer stretch of NSL road but the 40 zone "stretched" a couple of years back.

In this case at least it was about road safety as the number of accidents (mainly cars going through the hedges) has reduced drastically - you can see from the faded skidmarks at the side of my car that not everyone makes that bend even with the lower limit

As I mentioned earlier, the councils trim the hedges twice a year which is ludicrous but the local farmers tend to keep things in order but i guess at this time of year they are just too busy to be bothered with cutting the hedges.

Andy

 

[Doodle]

Mwahaha...I think I've just been busted for surfing the net too

A few years ago I had a community policing officer pull me over and claim she followed me through a roundabout at 80mph (based on her own speedo reading, no other equipment in the vehicle)

I knew that my Civic COULD do it, but it'd be a hairy ride, so I requested that she repeated her drive through the roundabout to demonstrate. This was declined, which was a shame as I was looking forward to watching a Nissan Terrano on mud tyres visiting the scenery!

Again, after much bluffing and protest, I left it with a "Am I being charged with an offence? Right, then I'm off"

 

[Dieselman]

Mwahaha...I think I've just been busted for surfing the net too

A few years ago I had a community policing officer pull me over and claim she followed me through a roundabout at 80mph (based on her own speedo reading, no other equipment in the vehicle)

I knew that my Civic COULD do it, but it'd be a hairy ride, so I requested that she repeated her drive through the roundabout to demonstrate. This was declined, which was a shame as I was looking forward to watching a Nissan Terrano on mud tyres visiting the scenery!

Again, after much bluffing and protest, I left it with a "Am I being charged with an offence? Right, then I'm off"

LOL...

This thread just keeps getting funnier and funnier.....

 

[pammy]

I think that although the NSL sign is obscured it's fairly obvious a sign of sorts is there and that it's pretty clear it's the NSL sign. I fully support the police, they do an awful job, but in this case they got it wrong and should just admit that and move on.

It's cases like this that undermine whatever respect there is for them. Admitting they were wrong would not raise concerns about them not knowing the law as he clearly did, he just hadn't seen the sign. Admitting you got it wrong when you clearly have earns far more trust and respect imho.

I would raise it to the Chief Con's attention, perhaps not as a formal complaint, but in the manner suggested earlier and perhaps slip in that the attitude could have been a little more professional etc

 

[SimonsMerc]

I tend to stick up for our police because they have a thankless task and are usually unable to defend themselves. I am not a regular viewer of 'fly on the wall' police programs but when I do watch a brief clip, I am appalled at the abuse our thin blue line is subjected to. How would we react if someone treated us in a similar manner and WHY should the police have to tolerate such offensive behaviour?

Hi John,

Off topic a little here, but. The reason that they have to tolerate such offensive behaviour is that they are being paid to do so. Part of their job is to diffuse difficult situations. Ignoring the fact that someone is swearing at you is a very difficult thing to do, but is often the best way to deal with the situation such that it doesn't escalate into for instance physical violence, harming either the officer, their suspects, or other innocent bystanders.

The very best uniform police officers simply let bad behaviour flow over them and vanish. That doesn't mean that it's right that people behave like this, but it is a part of the Police Officer's job to deal with it calmly.

-simon

 

[BTB 500]

You're lucky its NSL at all.

Round here stretches of road with far better visibility than that have had their limits reduced to 50 and 40, and even 30 in some cases.

Yup NSL is disappearing rapidly.

 

[Roadie]

me "you've just made that up haven't you?"

I would of paid good money to have watched you say that, followed by myself rolling around in hysterics.

 

[GrahamC230K]

It has been a big change in my area. NSL to 50mph limits, 50mph limits down to 40mph and the 40mph limits down to 30mph.

Has impacted me as I stick religiously under the 50mph or any numbered limit for some reason, but tend to drive to the road if I see a NSL sign.

 

[Howard]

Hi Howard,
You omitted to mention the nitty gritty. Did the officer apologise?

John

Don't know John , i'd walked off by then .....

 

[andy_k]

I think that although the NSL sign is obscured it's fairly obvious a sign of sorts is there and that it's pretty clear it's the NSL sign.

being charitable here, due to it being mostly obscured it's very easy to miss, the one on the right is completely hidden until you get right around the bend.

I took that pic at roughly the first point the signs are visible if you are coming around the right hand bend doing 40 mph, your eyes are naturally drawn to the centre of the road as you are exiting a bend and then to the crest of the slight hill about 300 yards in front - the hedges seem to create a tunnel like effect.

Loads of people miss that sign even when the hedge has been trimmed.

If you happened to be a little bored and were following another car, half waiting for them to do something wrong and half concentrating on your speedo because they had suddenly accelerated away from you then there is no way you would see the sign

Andy