So choices are :
Toyota Land Cruiser - LC5 - seems OK, can't really get too excited about them but it would be ultra reliable
Mitsubishi Shogun - never really liked them but understand that it would be ultra reliable
VW Toureg - like these loads, but from the what car comparisons the Disco beats it on most of the points I am interested in - again they are ultra reliable.
Landrover Disco - like the looks, can afford a decent spec (buying 2nd hand but would have at least 1-2 years of manu warranty left) am concerned about reliability and the durability of the interior, if I can get over the last points, then the decision become more head lead than heart.
Ravs and Xtrails don't count and I cannot get a BMW or Porsche as I have slagged them off in the past.