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I’ll accept the windscreen damage, even though the Autoglass repair man couldn't find the chip to repair it!!!

But when i wiped the number plate and no dirt was on my finger and a club sticker EXACTLY where the tax disc needed to be displayed? Pah - no,way! It was below the bonnet line so in no way can it impede vision.

And don't forget the emissions cert is dated 2 days before the test so clearly the equipment hasn’t been calibrated properly. A complaint to VOSA is on its way.
 
Sounds like this guy just wanted to fail your car

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I can't remember exactly what year the Suzuki DRZ 400 enduro bike was released but my mate bought one brand new from a Suzuki dealer. There were 3 versions (if I remember) and the one he bought was for 'green lane' riding so had to be road legal. The dealer put a number plate on his bike and registered it for him, I did question if he planned to keep it long enough to need an MOT as it would fail. He was surprised, the list was long. off road tyres, incorrect tail lamp/brake light, only one brake light switch, Non conform exhaust (out of the factory , brand new this bike was too noisy for most closed competition venues with it's standard exhaust system) amongst other things. Suzuki sold loads of them.

My mate made these points to the dealer who said it would be sorted out - I hasten to add my mate was in the motor trade all of his life - Cut long story short he made an MOT appointment and turned up without the bike and demanded a MOT certificate, after some 'discussion' with the dealer who sold him the bike the certificate was issued. He did this 3 times before he finally sold the bike. I have other 'off road' bike related MOT 'challenges' , but one is enough for today. I doubt if it's as 'easy' these days.
 
Thats whats called a “ghost mot” thats the cardinal sin in dvsa eyes
 
I can't remember exactly what year the Suzuki DRZ 400 enduro bike was released but my mate bought one brand new from a Suzuki dealer. There were 3 versions (if I remember) and the one he bought was for 'green lane' riding so had to be road legal. The dealer put a number plate on his bike and registered it for him, I did question if he planned to keep it long enough to need an MOT as it would fail. He was surprised, the list was long. off road tyres, incorrect tail lamp/brake light, only one brake light switch, Non conform exhaust (out of the factory , brand new this bike was too noisy for most closed competition venues with it's standard exhaust system) amongst other things. Suzuki sold loads of them.

My mate made these points to the dealer who said it would be sorted out - I hasten to add my mate was in the motor trade all of his life - Cut long story short he made an MOT appointment and turned up without the bike and demanded a MOT certificate, after some 'discussion' with the dealer who sold him the bike the certificate was issued. He did this 3 times before he finally sold the bike. I have other 'off road' bike related MOT 'challenges' , but one is enough for today. I doubt if it's as 'easy' these days.

Off road bikes are easy to mot if it's a genuine off road bike.
All you need is a horn and reflector on the back.
As long as it doesn't say 'offroad only' on the tyres(that's what grinders are for ) then they are ok
They dont test for noise.
You don't need ANY lights and it will still get a FULL mot.
 
There was a reason why I did this which I won't go into but I once washed a tax disc with mud before attaching it as low down as possible to a Ducati 160 motorcycle the night before taking my test. It was a valid tax disc, just not for that particular motorcycle. The examiner came out of the test centre, seemed to stare at the tax disc and then asked what model of bike it was. Turned out he was genuinely curious as it was a fairly rare model. Nothing was said and I passed first time.
 
a Ducati 160 motorcycle
You're not wrong when you say the 160 Monza was rare!

I’ve only ever seen one of them, and that was owned by a mate of mine back in the late 1970's. The engine grenaded one morning on the A2 in Kent as he rode to work. The biggest surviving part of the piston was about the size of a 10p piece :D

Happy days :)
 
The engine grenaded one morning on the A2 in Kent as he rode to work. The biggest surviving part of the piston was about the size of a 10p piece :D

I remember it ran best on 5 star, whatever octane that was, it must have been 100 or more. The engine was a work of art with a bevel gear drive to the cam. Quite exotic compared to the British equivalent like a Tiger cub. Electrics were crap of course in the usual Italian style. The bike had a right foot gear change. In the early 70's I recall seeing the whole Ducati Monza range in a motorcycle dealer at the end of Deansgate in Manchester. There were 250', 350's and I think 450's. I got the impression that because of the right foot gearchange they were a failed US export order that came to the UK instead.

I've only ever seen one other 160 a few years back. I actually stopped the guy to have a good look at it. He seemed a bit bemused by the attention but I wasn't about to let it go by.
 
Off road bikes are easy to mot if it's a genuine off road bike.
All you need is a horn and reflector on the back.
As long as it doesn't say 'offroad only' on the tyres(that's what grinders are for ) then they are ok
They dont test for noise.
You don't need ANY lights and it will still get a FULL mot.
Yes, a daytime MOT, but if you are up in the Welsh hills and the fog comes down and visibility drops if you are on a 'green lane' you will be riding illegally. OR , if like me and two of my mates some Years ago you happen to still be on the gap road when sun sets you are in a world of trouble. Having a full size number plate (MOT requirement) is a problem as they never survive a 'spirited' day out. I have my own way of dealing with that bit.

No need to put the grinder to the tyre walls anymore , a few good options out there for road legal MST , Maxxis make a brilliant set. When I had them on for MOT the guy said it was an instant fail until I asked him to look closer, they look like MX tyres to the uninitiated (and are crap on road between lanes) . I used to just pop my SuperMoto wheels on for MOT.
 
I got the impression that because of the right foot gearchange they were a failed US export order that came to the UK instead.
ISTR that they were, indeed, a failed export order to Canada(?) and Mick Walker (the UK Ducati importer in the 1970's) bought up the entire consignment. They were definitely exotic, but also pretty fragile and with - as you mention - pathetically poor electrics. Didn't they have 17-inch wheels too?
 
Theres no such thing as a daytime mot.
It's an mot.
Not even an advisory having no lights.
We all run lights, but cover them for the mot as it saves so much hassle with alignment etc.
The one or two guys who come out on full mx bikes bring those fandango push bike lights along, better than motorbike lights these days :D
My point was that the post about the offroad bike failing on these points was bs, any bike tester worth his salt would know that it was a proper offroad bike needing only the bare minimum to get it from lane to lane.

Only used the grinder as I had a brand new mx tyre sat there doing nothing.
Usual have a set of mitas 754s on

It's not cheating the mot, its reading between the lines :rolleyes:
 
Well two years ago I was pushed for time and booked it into a garage for a big service and a MOT, I went next door for a hair cut,it was just finished when I got a call that the car had failed,so I went right round to find it had failed on my number plate,what surprised me is they did not do the service before the MOT,but the tester was saluting the flag and I had forgot to put the normal plate on,but he was a ar=ehole the way he talked so I said forget the service I will return in 1 hour with the right number plate on,even then he bitched about it being held by double sided adhesive but I got the pass,what got me was this was a big garage and they had no cars on ramps,they were doing no business,it serves me right the MOT station I normally take it too does not worry about number plates.
 
..what surprised me is they did not do the service before the MOT,

I don't think it's mandatory, but DVSA apparently pressures garages to do the test first as it gives them a better picture of failures.

I've seen garages argue that sometimes the failure could be significant and the owner may not want to go ahead with other booked work.
 
Didn't they have 17-inch wheels too?

I couldn't swear to the exact size after almost 50 years but yes they were smaller wheels than the usual 18" or 19" of Brit bikes, either 16" or 17"

What killed mine was a gearbox failure. After T boning a U turning taxi I had grafted on Honda 175 forks as the original Ducati spares were very expensive if you could get them. It wasn't worth much so in the end I sold it for spares. Regretted of course but that's true of every bike I've sold.
 
Well two years ago I was pushed for time and booked it into a garage for a big service and a MOT, I went next door for a hair cut,it was just finished when I got a call that the car had failed,so I went right round to find it had failed on my number plate,what surprised me is they did not do the service before the MOT,but the tester was saluting the flag and I had forgot to put the normal plate on,but he was a ar=ehole the way he talked so I said forget the service I will return in 1 hour with the right number plate on,even then he bitched about it being held by double sided adhesive but I got the pass,what got me was this was a big garage and they had no cars on ramps,they were doing no business,it serves me right the MOT station I normally take it too does not worry about number plates.
Why would a number plate make an MOT fail?
You put it on there but it makes the tester an ****hole?
 

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