number plate check DVLA previous car

[Deleted member 150136]

12 years in lock down!!

 

[Scooby_Doo]

How can it revert to the first private plate ?? That plate is obviously in use on another car ??

 

[nyssa7]

The car will have a ordinary plate first and then private plate added later,when that private plate was removed the original plate is put on the new V5 and most people keep the old plate and put it on or have them made up,no plate issued by the DVLA will have been on another car,when a car is scrapped the plate is lost it never comes back.

In 1987 I bought a new Lotus Esprit with my private number issued from day 1. Two further new Esprits followed in similar fashion, with my plate being the only number they had until I sold them
its a lot easier now with everything being done online, you take a number off a car and immediately get the detail required to add to the V55 new car form so my 2010 Abarth 500 had my number from day 1 as did my current CLA45

the only exception was the Evoque in 2013, but that was dealer laziness combined with me buying a couple of days before the end of the quarter

earlier cars (the 80s) were assigned a random age related number when I sold them regardless of whether they previously had a reg or not. In more recent times the original number where applicable has been reassigned

 

[jimbg]

You may not have "seen" the original plate on on a new car but I have been transferring my private plate onto new cars since 1993.

 

[nyssa7]

You may not have "seen" the original plate on on a new car but I have been transferring my private plate onto new cars since 1993.

I’m really not into going down the path of my willy is bigger than yours etc, but I’ve had one number since 1976, another since 1983 and currently have 6 or 7 “cherished numbers”. When you drive away from the dealer on day 1 of the new reg year with your private plate on, there simply wasn’t a chance for any other number to have been previously assigned. Now it is all done on line, the V55 new car form can be completed with the chearished number details - again, there is no year number assigned first, even momentarily

 

[tonysmb]

DVLA told me that they will not re-issue a number that has previously been issued.

 

[markjay]

DVLA told me that they will not re-issue a number that has previously been issued.

I think that this answers the OP's question then?

 

[nyssa7]

DVLA told me that they will not re-issue a number that has previously been issued.

Totally not true, the number previously allocated to a car which then has a cherished number put on it is reallocated to that car when the number is moved off. I keep a stack of number plates in my garage so I can put the old ones back on where the car had a previous plate assigned

what I would accept is that if a number is no longer in use, car scrapped/exported then this might be true, but even then there are exceptions such as proving historical use of a number if a car has been reimported

 

[Smart320]

I bought an E class in the uk when I lived in jersey and put a Jersey Plate on it. When we moved back to the the uk it had to be registered in the uk again. DVLA advised me by email of a new registration number, not the same as originally, I bought new plates and 24 hours later got another email saying they had made an error and issued me with the V5 with the original number. They declined my claim for a refund for the cost of the extra set of plates!

 

[tonysmb]

Totally not true, the number previously allocated to a car which then has a cherished number put on it is reallocated to that car when the number is moved off. I keep a stack of number plates in my garage so I can put the old ones back on where the car had a previous plate assigned

what I would accept is that if a number is no longer in use, car scrapped/exported then this might be true, but even then there are exceptions such as proving historical use of a number if a car has been reimported

I appreciate that they reissue a car's own original number (I've also had/have loads of 'personal' numbers over decades - although they used to re-register the car from batches kept back for that purpose) and also that a car can have what was it's original number (lets say it had been 'lost' over time) reissued to it under certain circumstances but they will not re-issue a number that they previously allocated to one car to another car. So DVLA say.

Unless I've misunderstood the OP, he (she?) was talking about a number (not being a personal/cherished number) having previously been issued to a different car.

 

[markjay]

I appreciate that they reissue a car's own original number (I've also had/have loads of 'personal' numbers over decades - although they used to re-register the car from batches kept back for that purpose) and also that a car can have what was it's original number (lets say it had been 'lost' over time) reissued to it under certain circumstances but they will not re-issue a number that they previously allocated to one car to another car. So DVLA say.

Unless I've misunderstood the OP, he (she?) was talking about a number (not being a personal/cherished number) having previously been issued to a different car.

This is how I understood the OP's question as well.

We need to know if a standard age-related plate can be reissued by the DVLA to a different vehicle under some circumstances?

If the answer is No, than this answers the OP's question.

(Reissuing the original plates is something that I raised early on, but only by way of suggesting that the most likely scenario is that the car's current plates are the original plated that were issued to it at first registration)

 

[Deleted member 150136]

Of course dvla re issue plates.
Do you think all the dvla plate auctions are full of numbers they've never issued before?

 

[tonysmb]

Of course dvla re issue plates.
Do you think all the dvla plate auctions are full of numbers they've never issued before?

Have you ever actually had any dealings with DVLA about this? I have and I'm simply updating on here what they told me.

If you look carefully at many of the numbers up for auction, you'll see that they are in a format that was never issued, ie AAA 1B, for example, whereas originally the AA sequence with an A-suffix was only ever issued with the first letter being a D, ie DAA 1B. AAA 1B was never issued by the local licensing authority, so DVLA can, and do, put it up for auction.

AAA 1 might have been issued, so they might now auction 1 AAA.

There are millions of combinations of numbers never issued by DVLA so they have plenty to 'make up' without needing to revert to previously issued numbers.

Now, of course, I accept that they might have told me a load of b.....ks, and if that can be shown to be the case, I'll happily go back to them to pursue my original discussions with them, for which I was quite happy to pay them handsomely if they'd been in agreement.

I don't see any point in me adding more to this thread unless somebody can provide evidence to the contrary.

 

[Doodle]

Of course dvla re issue plates.
Do you think all the dvla plate auctions are full of numbers they've never issued before?

From DVLA's own auction site:

"DVLA’s sales scheme is confined to selling it’s own previously unissued registrations"

 

[Will]

Seems like it’s going to be one of those threads...

 

[rOckyAMG]

The car will have a ordinary plate first and then private plate added later,when that private plate was removed the original plate is put on the new V5 and most people keep the old plate and put it on or have them made up,no plate issued by the DVLA will have been on another car,when a car is scrapped the plate is lost it never comes back.

I think that this answers the OP's question then?

Yes it does!. They also confirmed today.

 

[Deleted member 150136]

From DVLA's own auction site:

"DVLA’s sales scheme is confined to selling it’s own previously unissued registrations"

Thats the ones they sell outright, not the auctions.
Only certain auctions sell unissued numbers, occasionally

 

[rOckyAMG]

Have you ever actually had any dealings with DVLA about this? I have and I'm simply updating on here what they told me.

If you look carefully at many of the numbers up for auction, you'll see that they are in a format that was never issued, ie AAA 1B, for example, whereas originally the AA sequence with an A-suffix was only ever issued with the first letter being a D, ie DAA 1B. AAA 1B was never issued by the local licensing authority, so DVLA can, and do, put it up for auction.

AAA 1 might have been issued, so they might now auction 1 AAA.

There are millions of combinations of numbers never issued by DVLA so they have plenty to 'make up' without needing to revert to previously issued numbers.

Now, of course, I accept that they might have told me a load of b.....ks, and if that can be shown to be the case, I'll happily go back to them to pursue my original discussions with them, for which I was quite happy to pay them handsomely if they'd been in agreement.

I don't see any point in me adding more to this thread unless somebody can provide evidence to the contrary.

This is true. I paid REG Transfers to force DVLA to issue a registration from 1st Jan 1966. They run a service to do this. It had never been issued before. It was my first initial with my surname. It did cost me some coin!.


However, DVLA can sell registration that lapses their retention period. This is only for private plates I believe.

 

[rOckyAMG]

The update to the thread.

The car my friend has bought had a private plate at registration. This is allowed (as many messages have confirmed and even my old man has done this lots of times since)

The plate added to the car after the private plate was removed is a new plate never issued before. This is confirmed by DVLA. I got my friend to ring them up.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

This is true. I paid REG Transfers to force DVLA to issue a registration from 1st Jan 1966. They run a service to do this. It had never been issued before. It was my first initial with my surname. It did cost me some coin!.

Can I check what that means: you were able to force the DVLA to sell you a specific registration number without it going to auction? If so, then how does this work, do you have any links?