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Oil in my inlet manifold

Danny DeVito

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My own problem now is why is there so much oil in my manifold ? Dirty oily mucky coating in it and a puddle collects in the egr. I have cleaned the crank breather but its seems to be very ineffective at blocking the oil from being sucked out with the gases. If anyone knows of a solution to this ??
 
Ahhh, one I can answer from experience.

To achieve modern emissions laws engines have to recycle the crank case vapour, which in a diesel for various reasons is laden with oil. The process is assisted by a cyclone separator or a crude oil catch can system but still a large volume of oil is deposited in the intake stream.
Second point of introduction. The Turbo will always pass some oil, this too ends up inside the intercooler pipes and throttle body, inlet manifold swirl flaps in truth everywhere also.

The biggest culprit in this though is the CCV from the crankcase.

The solution is to give the oil somewhere to clout out on to. The worlds best system but sadly very expensive is the Mann Hummel Provent, more commonly fitted to large trucks to extend the useable life of the engines (hence over 1,000,000km routinely seen) it is like a remote oil filter with a replaceable paper media that you change at a suitable mileage. it traps 99.8% of all oil passing through it very effectively.

We fitted them to the Jeeps the 2.8 VM engine the 2.7 Merc 5cyl and 3.0 V6 and it made a world of difference. In fact I fitted one to a brand new Grand Cherokee that then got so much attention from the dealer involved they started to offer them as options!

The Mann Hummel provent is available via https://www.mann-hummel.com/mhuk/upload/doc/HBUCDGJaind.pdf

There is another system but I cannot recall it as the Provent is expensive, however ask the question how much is a new inlet manifold or engine?
 
I would first replace the oil separater (fitted at the top of the engine), otherwise, it could be leaking turbo seals causing the problem.
 
Thanks, the oil separator doesn't seem to be a very effective design, it looks very basic. I think thats where most of the oil is coming from. I disconnected the egr because the oil puddle would smoke the exhaust like mad when i put the foot down. I saw instructions on how to make an oil catch can but i dont think it would suit i this case. It was fitted on a nissan patrol.
 

I had tried one of these before the official catch can, the result was a drip of oil on the garage floor each night as the thing breathes so heavily the filter just saturates with oil.

Now, thinking outloud,,, one I have thought of is a remote Oil filter with a replacement element type, let it breathe through that it will condense the oil, and should be far cheaper than a provent? ebay perhaps,,,,,,
 
My own problem now is why is there so much oil in my manifold ? Dirty oily mucky coating in it and a puddle collects in the egr. I have cleaned the crank breather but its seems to be very ineffective at blocking the oil from being sucked out with the gases. If anyone knows of a solution to this ??
Apart from Derek mc's suggestion you could try 2stroke oil.
read all about it here
Freel2.com - View topic - 2-stroke oil and diesel

Having cleaned it out first as outlined here
Ml w163 270 - egr - pipes - manifold - cleaning - MBClub UK - Bringing together Mercedes Enthusiasts

I use dipetane all the time and I find it very good.
Reduces fuel consumption and saves 10% on fuel costs for all motor vehicles
 

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