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Potholes got another victim

Suddenly slowing isn't an option because you have traffic closely following behind


Slowing is NEVER not an option!!! You would not say that if it was a child in the road..." sorry I could not slow down quickly as the traffic was too close behind!!!".....that's the people behinds problem......but I take your point.....and pot holes extending so far are thankfully rare. There are always exceptions.
And of course having said this I will get a dinked wheel the very next time I drive!!
 
Hmmm the pot hole i hit in Bucks was completely unavoidable and i was already down to 40 MPH in a national speed limit as the road was in a disgusting state..... cracked my offside front wheel ...I did cross the white line but of course it was even deeper that side of the line... Grrrr

And yes the drivers behind me were probably a tad cheesed off but soon slowed down to the same speed ( Apart from the cockwomble in the Range Rover ! )
 
Hmmm the pot hole i hit in Bucks was completely unavoidable and i was already down to 40 MPH in a national speed limit as the road was in a disgusting state..... cracked my offside front wheel ...I did cross the white line but of course it was even deeper that side of the line... Grrrr

And yes the drivers behind me were probably a tad cheesed off but soon slowed down to the same speed ( Apart from the cockwomble in the Range Rover ! )
Don't disparage cockwombles by suggesting they drive Range Rovers. We all know they're in Audis!🤣
 
Slowing is NEVER not an option!!! You would not say that if it was a child in the road..." sorry I could not slow down quickly as the traffic was too close behind!!!".....that's the people behinds problem......but I take your point.....and pot holes extending so far are thankfully rare. There are always exceptions.
And of course having said this I will get a dinked wheel the very next time I drive!!
Whilst I acknowledge your point that potholes are inanimate, and that surprisingly few drivers seem willing/prepared to avoid them, as @st13phil pointed out they are even more of a challenge when using two wheeled transport.
When I am in my cage (or my van for that matter), I am still "hyper road surface aware". I constantly reposition & moderate my progress to avoid potholes, manhole covers etc as a legacy from well over 50y of riding motorcycles on the roads.
Nonetheless there are instances that can catch out even the most world wary imho. I subconsciously map all the roads as I use them, so generally avoid almost all such obstacles.
However...
My nemesis is riding my motorcycles on unknown roads, and finding a pothole on my chosen line. When you are cranked over mid corner there are few options available. You can tighten your line, or widen it, if there is adequate carriageway available to divert into . However if that takes you into the opposing lane it will have to be free not only at that moment but for the length of time it will take for you to return to the safety of your side of the road. Conversely if diverting takes your line closer to the nearside, not only must you be certain you will completely avoid it (because otherwise the loss of traction will inevitably take the wheels from under you), but also your more acute lean will put your upper torso in to danger from verge side items or opposing traffic.
If you think braking mid-corner to avoid a pothole would be a realistic option on a motorcycle, you must be a far more proficient rider than I could aspire to.
Generally though I must agree with your stance, the majority of drivers seem happy to drive straight regardless, and just leave the poor old car to cope with whatever lays in their path.
 
There is one street that comes on to my street a row of cars park leaving wide enough for cars to travel and 2 dozen potholes right where your wheel goes no way of getting up or down without hitting them council came out filled them in lasted a week before back to farm track so I avoid that street,
go to other end of street onto main road big pothole right has you turn.
I went out today came back through a village speed humps with potholes at side of them and a lovely fellow in big volvo who didnt like me slowing down to get past them could see his nose hair flaring bless him.
 
Slowing is NEVER not an option!!! You would not say that if it was a child in the road..." sorry I could not slow down quickly as the traffic was too close behind!!!".....that's the people behinds problem......but I take your point.....and pot holes extending so far are thankfully rare. There are always exceptions.
And of course having said this I will get a dinked wheel the very next time I drive!!
To be fair, I don’t really like kids so I might actually say that 😂
 
Whilst I acknowledge your point that potholes are inanimate, and that surprisingly few drivers seem willing/prepared to avoid them, as @st13phil pointed out they are even more of a challenge when using two wheeled transport.
When I am in my cage (or my van for that matter), I am still "hyper road surface aware". I constantly reposition & moderate my progress to avoid potholes, manhole covers etc as a legacy from well over 50y of riding motorcycles on the roads.
Nonetheless there are instances that can catch out even the most world wary imho. I subconsciously map all the roads as I use them, so generally avoid almost all such obstacles.
However...
My nemesis is riding my motorcycles on unknown roads, and finding a pothole on my chosen line. When you are cranked over mid corner there are few options available. You can tighten your line, or widen it, if there is adequate carriageway available to divert into . However if that takes you into the opposing lane it will have to be free not only at that moment but for the length of time it will take for you to return to the safety of your side of the road. Conversely if diverting takes your line closer to the nearside, not only must you be certain you will completely avoid it (because otherwise the loss of traction will inevitably take the wheels from under you), but also your more acute lean will put your upper torso in to danger from verge side items or opposing traffic.
If you think braking mid-corner to avoid a pothole would be a realistic option on a motorcycle, you must be a far more proficient rider than I could aspire to.
Generally though I must agree with your stance, the majority of drivers seem happy to drive straight regardless, and just leave the poor old car to cope with whatever lays in their path.
I'm a biker...so I know what your mean....but even then unless I'm on the track I'm never going so fast that I could not avoid what's out of sight around a corner....it could be something far worse than a hole...like a broken down car. I honestly can't say I rode that carefully when I was young though....but I was immortal back then!.....and yes, with my knee on the deck....(or even my elbow slimming it on the right bend on my much missed, near race spec...no lights (daytime use only MOT).....TZR 250 reverse cylinder like below) it's near impossible to quickly change lines.
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I'm a biker...so I know what your mean....but even then unless I'm on the track I'm never going so fast that I could not avoid what's out of sight around a corner....it could be something far worse than a hole...like a broken down car. I honestly can't say I rode that carefully when I was young though....but I was immortal back then!.....and yes, with my knee on the deck....(or even my elbow slimming it on the right bend on my much missed, near race spec...no lights (daytime use only MOT).....TZR 250 reverse cylinder like below) it's near impossible to quickly change lines.
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Our Derbyshire roads are an embarrassment, well should be but as no one cares I guess no one is.
But they still promote people to buy motor cycles and bring them to Derbyshire to put their lives at risk.
They even designate areas for bikers to practice crashing.
Its crazy, crazy
 

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Well at least that report wont be biased at all!!....what nonsense.
 
Back on the subject of people missing potholes by driving with tunnel vision and not reading the road....a great example of this happened yesterday. I was two cars behind a nearly new electric Audi E-tron GT....probably my favourite looking EV. There is a massive pothole on the straight just past Runction on the Chichester to Pagham Road....I drive past it everyday and its been there ages...must be 2 feet long. a foot wide and 5 inched deep with very straight sides. I saw the car dip as he hit it....then 100 years past he pulled into the side of the road. I got out to see if I could help......I most definitely couldn't!! The front left wheel had a small triangular chunk missing from it and a crack that ran between there, right across the barrel of the wheel!!! I asked if he had a spare....they don't have them apparently.....not that it would have been any good as while we were talking I noticed a hissing sound....the rear wheel had a four or five inch flat section and the tyre was not sealing to the rim at that point. Even if he hasn't damaged the suspension....unlikely even at just 40 mph...I think that two Etron GT wheels and tyres wont be cheap. He said that he just did not see it....really? Not only was it a sunny clear day but since I had been to work they had painted a big YELLOW box around it!. Some people should really not be driving!!
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If potholes were so easy to miss, if you're concentrating on the road, then why do so many cyclists and bike riders hit them??
 
Do they?.....I don't know any motorcyclists that have hit one....it's much easier to go round them when you are narrow enough to do it without using the other side of the road....and the implications of not missing one are far more serious. Never hit a big one in 40 years of riding. As for cyclists....the same should apply to them especially at their relatively slow speed......if not, well who cares?! :)
 
Back on the subject of people missing potholes by driving with tunnel vision and not reading the road....a great example of this happened yesterday. I was two cars behind a nearly new electric Audi E-tron GT....probably my favourite looking EV. There is a massive pothole on the straight just past Runction on the Chichester to Pagham Road....I drive past it everyday and its been there ages...must be 2 feet long. a foot wide and 5 inched deep with very straight sides. I saw the car dip as he hit it....then 100 years past he pulled into the side of the road. I got out to see if I could help......I most definitely couldn't!! The front left wheel had a small triangular chunk missing from it and a crack that ran between there, right across the barrel of the wheel!!! I asked if he had a spare....they don't have them apparently.....not that it would have been any good as while we were talking I noticed a hissing sound....the rear wheel had a four or five inch flat section and the tyre was not sealing to the rim at that point. Even if he hasn't damaged the suspension....unlikely even at just 40 mph...I think that two Etron GT wheels and tyres wont be cheap. He said that he just did not see it....really? Not only was it a sunny clear day but since I had been to work they had painted a big YELLOW box around it!. Some people should really not be driving!!
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I think WSCC are using them as inverted negative asphalt speed modulation devices.😉😆
 
I’ve cracked two of the split rims on my SL. Do I get them repaired and risk it happening again? In the meantime I bought a set of smaller 18” wheels.

A friend who lives in headcorn has lost 5 tyres to potholes. It’s absolutely ridiculous.
 
I'm sure there are people who can repair alloys well.....but not found anyone myself. When I was in the car game I tried several. The cracks always returned soon or later. Very skilled work it would seem.
 

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