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Road blocks to catch smokers

Then there's the issue of when you are driving behind someone on the motorway who is inexplicably speeding up and then slowing down at random intervals (and they almost always do!). After a few minutes the window comes down and all becomes clear. An arm extends from the open window and the still glowing dog-end is released gracefully amidst a shower of sparks into free air so that it misses the the perpertrator's vehicle and bounces off your bonnet instead! If your car was parked and you saw someone deliberately flick a lighted cigarette onto the bonnet would you be happy?
 
snoop51 said:
Not bloody lightly..............oops likely I mean likely.:D

Rest of points lets agree to disagree shall we. You think it's OK to use a mobile, I think it's OK to smoke if you so wish. It's a moot point and has strayed away from the O.P.:thumb:
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Woah! I never said that. I specifically said I don't think smoking needs to be banned but I can't see how it hasn't.

There do seem to be a lot of dangers with it but they seem the same as being on the phone (from the evidence). However, I don't think people should be allowed on the phone when driving, that's actually a rule they got right, like seatbelts.

Apart from that, all I am adding is that litterbugs annoy the hell out of me and as a biker, people throwing tab ends at me as I ride along is a particular annoyance. I think people can smoke if they want but keep the window up or simply use the ashtray - that's what it is there for!

Not sure where that misunderstanding came in but explains the debate! :thumb:

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Im 21, smoked in all my cars. Never had any problems, a couple of months of 5 years no claims, and even if they banned it, I would still smoke, its ridiculous. Yet another example of rip-off Britain. Its not that when they put the tax on them and sell us them. Its not that when they want road tax (where that goes i'll never know) and its not that when you go to fuel up @ a rate that is as good as robbery! & THEN if your under 25, you got to shell out an absolute fortune just to insure the car. So by the time I get in my car, as a smoker, I wanna fag!...Its about the only enjoyment I get out of long drives, music & cigarettes and of course driving!. I really think though they ought to concentrate on the state of the 'youth of today' & the way this country is going/heading, rather than yet another fine/penalty or whatever for smoking whilst driving. Its pathetic... absolutely pathetic. I cant waaait for the day they pull me up for smoking. Hopefully I'll be outta' this place by then and wont have to worry about it though!
 
christopherwk said:
I have a question about this.

What about chauffeurs? In this instance, I'm talking about a chauffeur who drives the client's car, not a private hire/executive minicab service (where the car will be non-smoking anyway).

Reason I ask is that you'll be driving the client's own car, and obviously s/he can do whatever he likes in their own car. However, as underlined in the quote above, it's not the chauffeur's car, and they may not be the only driver.
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First the majority of chauffeur driven " private" cars will not be run by individuals but by their "business" as an expense. Second if the chauffeur is " employed " then the car becomes a "workplace" if only a part time one. In that instance the law would apply I think :dk: but such a situation would require testing in court in the highly unlikely situation of charges being made. Chances are the chauffeur would be keeping schtum anyway if he wanted to keep his job.:rolleyes:
 
I think its a great idea and about time. As someone who has had to change a wheel for a bloke who crashed into a curb and went up the pavement because a lit cigarette he threw out the window blew back in. Ive also had to swerve because a driver threw a cigarette at my car while i was passing them. Im amazed something hasnt been done sooner really. ive never understood why people eating ice lollies and the likes while driving get fined yet people setting fire to dried leafs wrapped in paper putting it in there mouth and then throwing it out the window when they've finished is fine. Mind i think at the moment the way things are. Resources could be used better elsewhere plus what happens if someone has smoked while waiting somewhere and then driven off after, it would be pretty hard to prove otherwise.
 
Too many people like you in what used to be 'great britain' in my opinion. If you got a half a clue or even half a brain, smoking and driving isn't a problem, ever. Hence the 'ash tray' in MOST cars today. That people like you probably use for coins, or keys or the likes. All am saying is a little respect needed towards us smokers. If I wanna smoke in my car. Bet nobody stops me. Ever. lol :D
 
I do smoke (cigars) from time to time but never in the car not just because of safety but because it also devalues cars. BTW most new cars dont actually have ash trays now. IMO im not the stupid one if im not the one who has driven up the pavement because of a stupid action that could of easily been avoided.
 
Safety, as said, if your a moron and cant control what your doing and how your doing it, quite possibly you could be a danger to other motorists, without a doubt, god there's people on the road who simply 'cant drive' regardless or smoking, singing, dancing whatever! and tbf no your not the stupid one, I didn't mean that. Who ever did drive up the pavement was though! lol, first thing I did @ 17 was smoke whilst driving, as well as loud music and whatever else you do at that age. I didn't go up NO Kerbs! lol because I'm not a moron, but for morons I couldn't agree more with you, its probably an increased risk, but to a moron anything other than driving whilst in the car is an increased risk. I go all over the country on the motorways and it quite literally 'blows my mind' some of the stuff you see!!...mostly morons.
 
Your not kiddin their, i did lose my temper a bit when they asked for help and told me how they had done it. My point was i cant see how its not been done sooner if people have been done for eating and driving at the same time. Your not kiddin there, i cant believe some of the things ive seen on my travels, However it was quite funny passing a mini on the M5 where the young male driver looked rather happy if you get me. but the amount of people ive seen bouncing around because of a hot rock on the seat or throwing stubs out the window at motorway speeds amazes me.
 
corned said:
I trust that, whilst going about this fine and worth activity, they will also be doing PNC, MOT,VED, licence and insurance checks.

Thought not. :mad:
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All done electronically with ANPR.

When I was stopped for charging down the buslane in a rare moment of wanting to get to work sooner, I was treated to all this.

Perhaps it was my reply when he asked me is this your car, my reply is "nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I stooooooooooooooooooooole it":rolleyes:

Personally, I'd like to have a sheesha pipe mounted in my car and puff away on that....its legal and it is ace
 
tagnut said:
I don't believe it is illegal is it?
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Yes it is several cases have been reported in the press. One girl was fined for drinking from a water bottle while stationary at lights. Failure to execute proper control of a motor vehicle
 
john925 said:
Yes it is several cases have been reported in the press. One girl was fined for drinking from a water bottle while stationary at lights. Failure to execute proper control of a motor vehicle
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I am doomed if the policeman sees my naughty little sweet stash.

Oh I am a criminal. Oh the shame.
 
s200rey said:
Safety, as said, if your a moron and cant control what your doing and how your doing it, quite possibly you could be a danger to other motorists, without a doubt, god there's people on the road who simply 'cant drive' regardless or smoking, singing, dancing whatever! and tbf no your not the stupid one, I didn't mean that. Who ever did drive up the pavement was though! lol, first thing I did @ 17 was smoke whilst driving, as well as loud music and whatever else you do at that age. I didn't go up NO Kerbs! lol because I'm not a moron, but for morons I couldn't agree more with you, its probably an increased risk, but to a moron anything other than driving whilst in the car is an increased risk. I go all over the country on the motorways and it quite literally 'blows my mind' some of the stuff you see!!...mostly morons.
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The person who went up the kerb probably thought he wasn't a moron...but, oops. It's like people who use mobile phones while driving...I've never had an accident so what's the problem...get it?
 
Hope people put them in their ash trays.I know of someone who chucked the fag out the window,only for it to come back in,land on the back seat. They didn't realise,parked up and it smouldered away and the car went up.
I'm not against smoking,I'm not against drinking either. I don't think either should be done whilst driving though,not because of the smell,not because of the risk of fire or distraction. It's the chemical effect they have on our body, I don't think anything that alters your mood or perception is a good idea,redbull,kids,whatever. If you need to do something other than drive,pull over and take a break. It's all well and good people saying they've done no harm so far,how will they feel the first time they aren't concentrating and take out that child at the side of the road.
 
Frankie said:
. It's all well and good people saying they've done no harm so far,how will they feel the first time they aren't concentrating and take out that child at the side of the road.
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But you could say that about anyone who has an accident, regardless of the reason.

The O.P BTW was about a council (Tendring) using the police to catch company vehicle drivers who were smoking in company vehicles (just to get it back on track) :thumb:

And yes I'm guilty of going off track too my apologies to Palfrem:)
 
Palfrem said:
Roadblocks set up to catch drivers smoking - Telegraph

Good to see in these austere times that our guardians have so much time and spare resource on their hands.

I could think of many other H&S Regulations that would save more lives and injuries if properly enforced with such vigour.
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A waste of resource. Are the police going to be used to track down smokers in office blocks. If this is not about road safety, then the police (IMO) have no right to get involved.
 
renault12ts said:
A waste of resource. Are the police going to be used to track down smokers in office blocks. If this is not about road safety, then the police (IMO) have no right to get involved.
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The Police have a right to get involved in the enforcement of any laws. When they did become restricted to road safety?
 
Burger said:
The Police have a right to get involved in the enforcement of any laws. When they did become restricted to road safety?
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Except that the police are not enforcing the smoking ban, local councils with their own staff will do. So why are they doing it on the road?
 
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