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SAAB file for Bankruptcy!

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Yes Saab have finally filed for the Swedish equivalent of going into Chapter 11 bankruptcy in the US after the Swedish government rejected GM's call for aid.
What a pity such a company with a track record in innovative engineering particularly in the field of safety have gone to the wall due to their links with the debt ridden GM. The company that should have been their saviour appears to have brought them to the brink of extinction. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7901027.stm
 
I never really 'got' Saab. Every one I've experienced, both old and new, have been very ordinary. It's no great loss in my mind.
 
We've had two, identical 9-3 1.9 Tid Vector Sport's and I have to say they are wonderful cars to drive.

Really comfortable and quite good fun to drive and after a 1000 mile weekend of journeys you can step out of the car and not have any back pain at all.

It's a shame if they do shut down but I'm sure someone out there will buy them up (hopefully).

KJ
 
Their contributions tended to be be low key and some are a bit idiosyncratic but many are something we all take for granted now.:rock: In recent years many GM drivers inc Vauxhall are now driving much safer cars due to SAAB's input.

1958: Safety Belts

Saab was the first car manufacturer to introduce seat belts as standard. From the very start, Saab played an active part in the development of safety components - in-house as well as in co-operation with subcontractors.

1963: Dual Brake Circuits

The diagonally split brake system reduced the risk of losing brake power in the event of damage to the system

1969: Headlamps switch off with ignition - Driving with headlamps in the daylight is a documented safety enhancement. The automatic on/off switch eliminated the risk of discharging the battery by accident.

1969: Ignition lock between front seats - The traditional position of the ignition key caused severe knee injuries, even in minor accidents. Placing the ignition lock between the front seats gets it out of the way. Furthermore, the position is logical, adjacent to the seat belt lock, handbrake and gear lever.

1970: Headlights wash and wipe - Rain and dirt can remove 90% of headlamp illumination. Saab's simple yet unique solution was to create a wash and wipe system, which later became a legal requirement in many countries.

1971: Energy Absorbing Bumpers - With conventional bumpers, even a minor collision could result in costly repairs. With energy absorbing bumpers, collisions at speeds up to 8km/h require no repairs at all.

1971: Electrically Heated Seats: A major comfort enhancement. Originally it was developed from a health perspective; sitting in a cold seat is not good for anyone. Today, this Saab innovation is a part of the standard equipment in almost any car.

1972: Side Impact Protection - Saab was the first car manufacturer to introduce reinforcement members in the doors, in order to provide side impact protection. Surprisingly enough, the Saab was for many years the only car that offered this added safety.

1976: 3-Way Catalyst Converter - To comply with rigorous emissions regulations, Saab was one of the first car manufacturers to use a Lambda sensor controlled 3-way catalyst converter. Today, this is naturally a standard feature on all Saab cars and continued development work is being carried out to maintain and improve our position in this field.

1976: Turbocharging - Saab was the first car manufacturer to develop a turbo engine with the reliability and durability that is required for everyday use. Turbocharging provides increased output and huge torque at low and medium revs, without the usual increase in weight, cost and fuel consumption.

1978: Collapsible Steering Column - With Saab's design, the steering column does not penetrate the cabin in a head-on collision. Compared with other similar designs this has the advantage of not affecting the driver's ability to steer the car even after an accident

1978: Cabin Air Filter - Allergies are an increasing problem. The quality of the air is very important for people who suffer from hay fever or other allergies. Our electrostatic cabin air filter removes pollen and other particles, down to a size of 0.004mm from the incoming air.

1980: APC - Growing concern for the environment and reduced emissions led to the development of APC, Automatic Performance Control. APC enables the engine to run on fuels with a lower octane rating, with no loss of efficiency and durability. This is achieved using combustion process monitoring to control the turbocharger.

1981: Split-field Side Mirror - This Saab innovation eliminates the blind spots when looking to the rear. Simple, inexpensive and subsequently standard de facto.

1982: Asbestos-free Brake Pads - Saab was probably the first car manufacturer to take advantage of the new materials to replace asbestos.

1985: Direct Ignition - By the direct ignition system, Saab eliminated the ignition cables and distributor. Each spark plug has a separate coil which produces a firing spark voltage of 40,000 volts. The result is improved combustion and better cold-starting performance.

1991: Saab Trionic - Saab Trionic was developed in-house and is still one of the world's most advanced systems for engine management. It measures all the parameters which play a significant part in the combustion process. The data is used for real-time control of turbocharging, fuel injection and ignition. The system also includes ionisation measurement inside the cylinders while the engine is running.

1991: Light Pressure Turbo - With the light pressure turbo, Saab has introduced turbo technology for standard cars with a less pronounced performance profile. Light pressure turbo is used to optimise driving characteristics and overtaking performance.

1991: CFC Free Air Conditioning - By tradition, the coolants used in air conditioning systems were of the CFC type - efficient but with a documented harmful effect on the atmosphere. In the early 90's alternatives became available and Saab was one of the first to introduce this as standard.

1993: Saab Safeseat - The Saab Safeseat was introduced as a safety design philosophy. The aim is to ensure that all the interior safety features interact correctly and provide maximum protection.

1993: Night Panel - This function blacks out the instrument panel, apart from the speedometer. This reduces the risk of distraction while driving at night. All the systems still work in the background and the appropriate guage or lamp will light up when the driver's attention is required. A good example of our aircraft heritage.

1995: Ecopower - Saab's engine development does not simply focus on performance. Power should be instantly available but not at the expense of economy and environmental concern. Ecopower is the collective name for our efforts in this field. Turbo, ignition, engine management and catalytic converters are not treated as separate units, but are optimised to create a harmonious power source.

1996: Saab Active Head Restraint (SAHR) - The number of whiplash injuries would decrease dramatically if all cars had head restraints that were shaped and correctly positioned. That is why Saab has developed the Active Head Restraint. It automatically takes up the correct position in a rear-end impact and controls the movement of the head and vertebrae.

1997: Electronic Brake Force Distribution - To optimise the effect of the brakes, this function distributes the correct amount of the force to the front and rear axle respectively. It is sensitive to the load distribution in the car and, unlike a traditional reduction valve, it does not reduce the total amount of available braking power.

1997: Ventilated Seats - Saab 9-5 is the first car with ventilated seats. As a compliment to air conditioning this provides an outstanding level of comfort and helps the driver to stay fit and alert.

1997: Comsense - Saab introduced a system that reduces the risk of distraction by briefly delaying incoming phone calls and lower priority alerts when the brakes or turn indicators are activated. This helps the driver to stay focused, for example when turning, overtaking or approaching a crossing.

2000: Saab Variable Compression - Saab launched an entirely new engine concept named SVC. Owing to the SVC engine's unique design, it offers performance on a par with units twice its size but with the fuel consumption of a small engine. The SVC engine is a 5-cylinder 1.6 litre unit producing 225 bhp and it delivers no less than 305 Nm of torque.

2002: ReAxs System - Saab 9-3 Sport Sedan was introduced with a chassis geometry system that ensures smooth interaction of the steering, front suspension and multi-link rear axle. ReAxs enables the rear wheels to steer slightly when turning, helping the car move in the intended direction. It provides crisp steering feedback and contributes to enhanced driving stability in curves.

2003: Cargowing - Serves as a spoiler when lowered. When raised it becomes a functional rack for special holders to carry objects such as skis and snowboards.

2003: CargoSET - A function introduced for Saab 9-3 Convertible that automatically expands the luggage capacity as you raise the soft-top. The space occupied by the folded soft-top becomes available for luggage, providing a total of 380 litres.

2008: XWD - A new all-wheel-drive system developed by Haldex. The Saab 9-3 Turbo X was the first vehicle in the world to use this system, combining new all-wheel-drive hardware with an electronic limited slip differential so that torque can be split not only between front and rear, but also from side to side at the rear wheels.
 
They have not gone down yet, just filed for protection from creditors.

So cue big reorganisation and funding merry go round but the stark fact is that there was overcapacity in the global car market even before things turned really bad so ultimately yes, could be bye bye Saab.
 
I always wanted a black SAAB 900 Turbo - or maybe that Carlsson one they did..

When I was younger I wanted a 900 yellow convertible with a black soft top. ( I WAS YOUNG!)

I even went to go see one at the saab dealer in Glasgow.

Now I realise that yellow would not have been a good choice!

KJ
 
It is a shame, it means they are likely to cut jobs and a good car maker could be lost. They are nice solid cars and its a shame if the name is lost
 
History repeating itself.............

Alvis, Talbot, Triumph, Jowett, Armstrong Siddley, Lea Francis, etc, etc.............

As was reported some time ago, its reckoned that the number of major car manufacturers in the world could be a few as 5 or 6 in 20 or so years.
 
History repeating itself.............

Alvis, Talbot, Triumph, Jowett, Armstrong Siddley, Lea Francis, etc, etc.............

As was reported some time ago, its reckoned that the number of major car manufacturers in the world could be a few as 5 or 6 in 20 or so years.

probably true, but a shame as

1. less competition so maybe higher prices despite economies of scale
2. less choice-bad if you like cars
3. less jobs in the automotive sector
 
What have Saab made new in the past 5 years anyway? re-hashing the 93 & 95 more times than Rover did with its 200/400 series.

I to have never really seen their appeal...
 
The number of car marques has fallen sharply in the last 50 years. And for the most part, its all down to profits, or lack thereof.
Britain now has, as far as I can think, what with the demise of TVR, only 2 independant car makers left (Morgan and Bristol). Excuding Kit cars and one/two/three man band outfits.
And even they use third party main components. There is not one car produced in the UK nowadays that is totally UK designed, manufactured and sold. And its going to go that way in quite a few more countries before to long.
It just costs so much to design and produce a totally new model from scratch nowadays. There is so much worldwide legislation that see to that. I can see the day when Renault and Peugot amalgamate. I can see Fiat falling by the wayside. Maybe a joinup with SEAT? And as for GM, Ford and Chrysler, who would be brave enough to predict their future?
Daewoo have already fallen, and I can see KIA following.
No. The car world is rapidly shrinking. Probably faster than its ever done.
Some names gone and will continue to go forever.
 
You've never sat in one then...

They are really comfortable, more so than the Mercs I've owned (W124 E320 coupe and 300-E-24 not included).

We have the two tone soft premium leather and its really nice. Maybe a bit too soft but very comfortable.

Go for a drive in one of the high end 9-3 models (vector sport/aero) and you'll see what I mean.

Its a good, fast, comfortable, safe car.

Regards,

KJ
 

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