Seized Engine 20k

[grober]

Sort of what I was getting at wondering why there was no warning of impending engine seizure. Only think I can think of is sudden failure of the oil pump [ chain drive?] Surely in that case the dash would have lit up like a Christmas tree. Presumably the garage can interrogate the engine management system which might give a clue?

 

[brucemillar]

Sort of what I was getting at wondering why there was no warning of impending engine seizure. Only think I can think of is sudden failure of the oil pump [ chain drive?] Surely in that case the dash would have lit up like a Christmas tree. Presumably the garage can interrogate the engine management system which might give a clue?

When the wife's 240 threw a rod. All we got was " alternator visit workshop". No noise, no drama. Just the light and silence.

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[camerafodder]

Perhaps the oil drain plug fell out.

 

[HumberMart]

Perhaps the oil drain plug fell out.

Guess you didn't read post no. 4

 

[camerafodder]

Guess you didn't read post no. 4

Guess I didn't. But to be honest the whole thread is speculation until the cause of the problem has been diagnosed.

 

[Aviomike]

Sorry for the delay and getting back to all the questions. But the seized engine has been resolved.
After removing the gearbox before the engine was removed, they isolated fault to the flywheel. A bolt from behind the flywheel had worked loose and jam the flywheel.
As a precaution the flywheel was replaced.
The engineers said they have never seen this before on any Mercedes.

So I can now sleep easy, and stop researching engine rebuilds..
Just waiting for the bill in the post!

 

[merc85]

Sorry for the delay and getting back to all the questions. But the seized engine has been resolved.
After removing the gearbox before the engine was removed, they isolated fault to the flywheel. A bolt from behind the flywheel had worked loose and jam the flywheel.
As a precaution the flywheel was replaced.
The engineers said they have never seen this before on any Mercedes.

So I can now sleep easy, and stop researching engine rebuilds..
Just waiting for the bill in the post!

Awesome result there considering

 

[grober]

The events leading up to the seizure did seem atypical for an engine blow up.
GOOD RESULT in the end.

 

[John Jones Jr]

Awesome result there considering

2nd.

Great news.

 

[219]

Sorry for the delay and getting back to all the questions. But the seized engine has been resolved.
After removing the gearbox before the engine was removed, they isolated fault to the flywheel. A bolt from behind the flywheel had worked loose and jam the flywheel.
As a precaution the flywheel was replaced.
The engineers said they have never seen this before on any Mercedes.

So I can now sleep easy, and stop researching engine rebuilds..
Just waiting for the bill in the post!

Since that fault could not possibly be due to anything you , or the serving agents , have done , it ought to be covered under warranty .

That problem sounds like the bolt was not tightened correctly during assembly - i.e. a manufacturing defect .

 

[John Jones Jr]

Since that fault could not possibly be due to anything you , or the serving agents , have done , it ought to be covered under warranty .

That problem sounds like the bolt was not tightened correctly during assembly - i.e. a manufacturing defect .

Of course that would apply if there's an M-B warranty on the car. Otherwise, it's a goodwill claim. I'd reckon the manner in which the dealer processes the G/W claim would be significant for such a fault too.

 

[Aviomike]

Yes I agree, they were waiting for a reply from MB Brussels.

 

[John Jones Jr]

they were waiting for a reply from MB Brussels.

Good, I presume it's a goodwill claim? If so I'd be hopeful you get positive result.

 

[Aviomike]

I'm looking into extended warranty for this car, the normal search sites seem to bring up Direct Warranty or Click 4 warranty. Direct looks very impressive but is twice the cost of click4warranty for a 3 year plan. Would anyone recommend either of these plans.

 

[Delayed Steve]

Don't MB guarantee their engines for a million miles as long as you have full MB service history?
I know they did a few years ago on commercials, a company I worked for had a Actros throw a rod through the side of the engine the engine was replaced by MB free of charge .

 

[Aviomike]

Sorry for the delay, but the final bill only arrived this week. No items covered under warranty.
Total of cost £1480.
Parts = Starter ring(Flywheel)/bolts/ Aircon Gas.
So the majority of the cost was labour, close to £1000. Investigation/removing gearbox and something to do with the aircon being disturbed.
So overall I am very happy that it was not a engine issue and the main dealer hourly rate of 65 euro's seems very good compared to some garage's in the UK.

 

[zipdip]

Well I am glad you are happy with a bill for £1480,given a full MB service history,and the fact that a bolt was loose which could only have happened at the factory,once again MB backslide,they should at least pay half the cost if not all of it.

 

[markjay]

Sorry for the delay, but the final bill only arrived this week. No items covered under warranty.
Total of cost £1480.
Parts = Starter ring(Flywheel)/bolts/ Aircon Gas.
So the majority of the cost was labour, close to £1000. Investigation/removing gearbox and something to do with the aircon being disturbed.
So overall I am very happy that it was not a engine issue and the main dealer hourly rate of 65 euro's seems very good compared to some garage's in the UK.

You could still try and write to MB UK asking first a goodwill contribution.

I did this once with a 4 years Vauxhall Omega, the dealar fixed it but said the car was no longer covered by warranty, so I paid for the repair and then wrote to Luton and they agreed to refund 75% of the cost - and sent me a cheque.

Worth a try - you have nothing to lose...

 

[zipdip]

I hope you try what Markjay suggests,MB be it in Belgium or the UK are taking the P---S just look at the aircon gas,they have damaged something carrying out their mechanical inspection and expect you to pay for it,these so called experts,when they make a mistake should pay for it,I hope you get MB to cough up.

 

[Petrol Pete]

So, a bolt fell out of the DMF at 20K miles. DMF is a service item (it has moving parts that eventually wear out) but at 20K miles !!!

This has to be a 100% MB problem. they buy the flywheels in from a supplier as a unit and fit it when THEY build the engine/drivetrain.

Unless this car has been towing near its max capacity for all of those 20K miles the DMF should be still OK.

Add this to the fact that there was no chattering/juddering before the car stopped working means MB are responsible.