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STAR lowering

sp00ky

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Can anyone in the UK with STAR confirm whether or not the W166 can be lowered using it?
 
Any Car with Airmatic or SLS can be lowered to a degree with STAR.

I can understand people with sporty mercs wanting a better handling stance etc but why buy a 4x4 then start trying to make it something it isn't?

Lowering a car will upset it's geometry and massively increase tyre wear if in turn the lowing can not be compensated by laser alignment,
 
I didn't realise anyone would be particularly interested in the reasons... If it's relevant then the reasons are to make it easier for my wife and mother to get in and out and I reckon it will look better as well. My mother in particular has to almost jump out - not ideal in her 70s. Obviously the geometry would change and this would need to be checked as part of the process. Obviously. Not sure any of that is relevant to the question though.

The point of the question was that the local dealer had said that the option to lower in STAR is greyed out and it is impossible to do it - this sounds odd and so I wanted to know if anyone who ACTUALLY HAS STAR could let me know if this is true or not.
 
Spooky, the amount STAR will lower will not help your wife and mother as it will only be an inch or so.

if its that bad it might be time to re-think about the car itself!
 
I reckon the amount it can lower the car would be helpful.

The question is about whether or not it CAN be done... nothing else. I'm getting the feeling that nobody can verify this?
 
There are modules out there that lower at a pre programmed time. Lads on the us forums use them on their w220s to lower when the car is locked.
I'd imagine you could have similar results from the car lowering, perhaps when you remove the key?

Alps, how come only an inch on star? If airmatic cars are left for prolonged periods, they drop by a good 4 or so inches at least. Is it that the shocks only operate within a certain range? So need to be at a certain height for driving?
 
OK we will ignore the reasons then.


Yes, in general it can be done.

Mine was lowered as part of a coilover suspension upgrade.

You've not stated what year your model is so there may be a chance that the option is greyed out for a reason and that in your particular case it can't be done or requires a factory only edition of STAR do carry out.

If local dealer says no then that's probably the case unless a specialist Indy such as Olli says otherwise?
 
I'm presuming you have seat(s) adjusted as low as possible already? Would it be possible to lower the seat(s) further by modifying the runners/frame?
 
OK we will ignore the reasons then.


Yes, in general it can be done.

Mine was lowered as part of a coilover suspension upgrade.

You've not stated what year your model is so there may be a chance that the option is greyed out for a reason and that in your particular case it can't be done or requires a factory only edition of STAR do carry out.

If local dealer says no then that's probably the case unless a specialist Indy such as Olli says otherwise?

It's a W166, so this year (registered March 2012).

The dealer's don't always know what can be done - some might not realise simply because they have not been asked so assume it cannot be done. It appears to be ok in the US to do this.
 
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You've not stated what year your model is so there may be a chance that the option is greyed out for a reason and that in your particular case it can't be done or requires a factory only edition of STAR do carry out.

If local dealer says no then that's probably the case unless a specialist Indy such as Olli says otherwise?

If a current or very young model, then STAR 'mods' can only be done using a file download/authorised from Germany.
 
I'm presuming you have seat(s) adjusted as low as possible already? Would it be possible to lower the seat(s) further by modifying the runners/frame?

I was hoping for something simpler and having the benefit of what I consider to be a better look as well. I also don't want to make significant changes such as changing seats to a new car that has some finance on it...

I believe an inch would be the most that would usually be recommended if adjusting solely by using STAR.
 
If a current or very young model, then STAR 'mods' can only be done using a file download/authorised from Germany.

Interesting. I would like to have verification from someone who has STAR to confirm whether or not the option to set the start height is greyed out. I have heard of people changing the wrong settings and the car adjusting itself back to standard height, so I also wondered if the dealer had simply looked at the wrong setting or couldn't be bothered.
 
Give the guys at comand.co.uk a call?

They probably have the greatest in-depth knowledge of STAR in the UK
 
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Wrong! W164 ML with Airmatic cannot be lowered by STAR.... believe it i've tried....



Any Car with Airmatic or SLS can be lowered to a degree with STAR.

I can understand people with sporty mercs wanting a better handling stance etc but why buy a 4x4 then start trying to make it something it isn't?

Lowering a car will upset it's geometry and massively increase tyre wear if in turn the lowing can not be compensated by laser alignment,
 
There are modules out there that lower at a pre programmed time. Lads on the us forums use them on their w220s to lower when the car is locked.
I'd imagine you could have similar results from the car lowering, perhaps when you remove the key?

Alps, how come only an inch on star? If airmatic cars are left for prolonged periods, they drop by a good 4 or so inches at least. Is it that the shocks only operate within a certain range? So need to be at a certain height for driving?

Hey V12
you can drop it to the floor, but it wont take(save) the settings as theres some preset tolerences which the settings have to be in between.

Greg has tried, but i have the feeling that it was lowered past the tolerence level, so when car is restarted it will reset back to the height before adjustment.
 
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Wrong! W164 ML with Airmatic cannot be lowered by STAR.... believe it i've tried....

You may have made a mistake, or tried to calibrate it past the standard allowed limits.

Perhaps your point was that a significant change was not possible with an unmodified SDS (with standard SW)?
 
mmm i appologise then.. so how much can you lower with Star as i'll get olli to give it another go before the links...

Depends on the car, with an unmodified Star perhaps a couple of centimetres (all round). But experts can exceed the standard limits that DAS sets and then any level is possible without touching the sensors.
 
Lowering links and an account with a local tyre company?
 

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