Transferring a private reg

[steve333]

I'm looking at changing my cls for an ml next weekend & want to transfer my p/plate if i decide to buy the ml.The dealer has told me the only way i can do the deal next weekend & drive away the ml is if i pay £105 to retain my p/plate & in 10 days i can transfer the plate over(my cls will go back to it's original 57 plate & the ml on it's current 08 plate on the day of sale)is thid how it works?

 

[redbaron]

this is how it works with dealers... it can take weeks to do a proper transfer so dealers tend to distance themselves from the process..

 

[steve333]

this is how it works with dealers... it can take weeks to do a proper transfer so dealers tend to distance themselves from the process..

^ I know dealers don't like the hassle of p/plate transfers as it can be time consuming,the question is,after paying the £105/filling out the retention form will i get a new tax disc/v5 in the post allowing me to put my p/plate on the ml if i decide to buy it?(in other words i'm not just retaining the plate but putting it on retention then transferring it allowing the dealer to take my car in part exchange on it's original 57 plate),hope that makes sense?

 

[redbaron]

^ I know dealers don't like the hassle of p/plate transfers as it can be time consuming,the question is,after paying the £105/filling out the retention form will i get a new tax disc/v5 in the post allowing me to put my p/plate on the ml if i decide to buy it?(in other words i'm not just retaining the plate but putting it on retention then transferring it allowing the dealer to take my car in part exchange on it's original 57 plate),hope that makes sense?

no it doesnt make sense

you either retain the plate via retention. £80 tfr fee + £25 retention = £105

transfer the plate via the transfer process. £80 tfr fee


or the plate goes with the car when you sell it.


There are no other choices.

 

[steve333]

no it doesnt make sense

you either retain the plate via retention. £80 tfr fee + £25 retention = £105

transfer the plate via the transfer process. £80 tfr fee


or the plate goes with the car when you sell it.


There are no other choices.

Cheers Paul,that will be the first option then(as the dealer quoted £105,i take it i can drive the new car away on it's current plate after paying the fee/filling out the appropriate DVLA paperwork?) i then need to pay a further £80 to transfer the plate from retention to the new car?

 

[Spin_bowler]

No. The 105 includes the 80 transfer fee, so no more to pay for first transfer.

 

[steve333]

No. The 105 includes the 80 transfer fee, so no more to pay for first transfer.

Thanks for the help spin bowler,now i know i can drive the car away( if i decide to buy) & wait for the new tax disc/v5 before putting the p/plate on

 

[MOCAŠ]

Thanks for the help spin bowler,now i know i can drive the car away( if i decide to buy) & wait for the new tax disc/v5 before putting the p/plate on

Not quite.

Seems to me the dealer is suggesting you put the plate on retention so that he doesn't have to get involved in the transfer process at all, which is not uncommon these days (as already stated).

However, putting it on retention doesn't automatically start the transfer process, so once you receive the retention certificate, you will then need to apply to have the plate transferred to your new car. It's not just a matter of sitting back and waiting for it to happen; the DVLA won't assume that just because you've bought a new car, you wan't your plate transferred on to it.

Spin_bowler is correct of course about not having to pay a further fee, but you do need to apply for the transfer onto the new car. If you don't do this within a year of the retention certificate having been issued, you need to pay £25 to extend the certificate for a further year or risk losing the plate altogether.

 

[kit17]

Not quite.

Seems to me the dealer is suggesting you put the plate on retention so that he doesn't have to get involved in the transfer process at all, which is not uncommon these days (as already stated).

However, putting it on retention doesn't automatically start the transfer process, so once you receive the retention certificate, you will then need to apply to have the plate transferred to your new car. It's not just a matter of sitting back and waiting for it to happen; the DVLA won't assume that just because you've bought a new car, you wan't your plate transferred on to it.

Spin_bowler is correct of course about not having to pay a further fee, but you do need to apply for the transfer onto the new car. If you don't do this within a year of the retention certificate having been issued, you need to pay £25 to extend the certificate for a further year or risk losing the plate altogether.

Just to add to this, once you've recieved your retention document you can get the transfer done at your local dvla office(if you have one) and put plates on straight away, you don't need to go through DVLA swansea.

 

[steve333]

Just to add to this, once you've recieved your retention document you can get the transfer done at your local dvla office(if you have one) and put plates on straight away, you don't need to go through DVLA swansea.

^ So to be clear i will drive the new car away with it's current reg number & after filling out retention form/paying the £105 i wait for retention paperwork to come back from Swansea then take it along with tax disc/v5 to local dvla office who will issue new v5/tax in private plate details without any further fee?

 

[MOCAŠ]

^ So to be clear i will drive the new car away with it's current reg number & after filling out retention form/paying the £105 i wait for retention paperwork to come back from Swansea then take it along with tax disc/v5 to local dvla office who will issue new v5/tax in private plate details without any further fee?

Yes, although ideally, you'd have the plate on retention before you hand your current car over to the dealer, as technically if you sell the car with the plate still on it, you're no longer the registered keeper and the plate goes to the new owner.

Getting the retention out of the way first avoids any potential confusion while all the paperwork is going through the DVLA, but so long as you trust the dealer you should be OK.

 

[steve333]

Yes, although ideally, you'd have the plate on retention before you hand your current car over to the dealer, as technically if you sell the car with the plate still on it, you're no longer the registered keeper and the plate goes to the new owner.

Getting the retention out of the way first avoids any potential confusion while all the paperwork is going through the DVLA, but so long as you trust the dealer you should be OK.

Thanks for the help Mocas,don't think i'll be able to get the plate on retention in time as i'm viewing the car next saturday & will do the deal then if the car is as expected.

 

[kit17]

Yes, although ideally, you'd have the plate on retention before you hand your current car over to the dealer, as technically if you sell the car with the plate still on it, you're no longer the registered keeper and the plate goes to the new owner.

Getting the retention out of the way first avoids any potential confusion while all the paperwork is going through the DVLA, but so long as you trust the dealer you should be OK.

I agree with getting the retention bit out of the way first, but how will he be able to part-ex the car next weekend as I doubt the new V5 for cls will be back in time.

I would wait one more weekend to get new ML, get your plate on retention at the local dvla office(pay £105). Give the rentention document to the dealer , let them put the new plates on and sort out paperwork. Then once new V5 turns up for the cls. Go part ex the car:bannana:

 

[steve333]

I agree with getting the retention bit out of the way first, but how will he be able to part-ex the car next weekend as I doubt the new V5 for cls will be back in time.

I would wait one more weekend to get new ML, get your plate on retention at the local dvla office(pay £105). Give the rentention document to the dealer , let them put the new plates on and sort out paperwork. Then once new V5 turns up for the cls. Go part ex the car:bannana:

^Sounds good to me,what about transfering the p/plate to the new car(if i decide on it)on saturday,how long would that take to do?

 

[Spin_bowler]

Once you've got the retention cert for your private number and provided you're in possession of either a V5c in your name OR the "new keeper" section filled out with your details from the current V5c then you can get it done at your local DVLA office while you wait.

If you only have the new keeper section you'll also have to fill out another form but you can get that at the office at the same time. I don't recall the form number off the top of my head.

 

[steve333]

Once you've got the retention cert for your private number and provided you're in possession of either a V5c in your name OR the "new keeper" section filled out with your details from the current V5c then you can get it done at your local DVLA office while you wait.

If you only have the new keeper section you'll also have to fill out another form but you can get that at the office at the same time. I don't recall the form number off the top of my head.

Just downloaded the v317 which says i can fill out take to my local dvla office with supporting paperwork(v5/tax/mot)& fee which i will do tuesday,will i then be able to put the cls back on it's 57 plate ready for the potential purchase of the ml saturday?(if that goes to plan i will be able to go back to the local dvla office the following monday & have the retained p/plate transferred onto the ml?)

 

[kit17]

Just downloaded the v317 which says i can fill out take to my local dvla office with supporting paperwork(v5/tax/mot)& fee which i will do tuesday,will i then be able to put the cls back on it's 57 plate ready for the potential purchase of the ml saturday?(if that goes to plan i will be able to go back to the local dvla office the following monday & have the retained p/plate transferred onto the ml?)

Yes the cls can go back onto a 57 plate, however the local office will only give you back a new mot and tax disc (which is enough to get the new 57 plates made up) but you will have to wait about a week or so for a new V5 to come back via post from swansea, Im not sure how you can Part Ex a car without this?

I might be wrong , does anybody else know?

 

[bpsorrel]

When I bought my CLS, the dealer arranged the transfer of my private plate from my 211 for the £80 transfer fee. I waited a couple of weeks and collected the car complete with plates and new road tax, no problem. A week later the paperwork arrived. My 211 was allocated it's original plates. I didn't have to do anything.

 

[steve333]

When I bought my CLS, the dealer arranged the transfer of my private plate from my 211 for the £80 transfer fee. I waited a couple of weeks and collected the car complete with plates and new road tax, no problem. A week later the paperwork arrived. My 211 was allocated it's original plates. I didn't have to do anything.

^ That sounds like my best option Barry,if i do the deal on the ml saturday i will fill out the v317 & pay the dealer the £80 fee to do the transfer then wait the 2 weeks before going back to part x the cls/collect the ml with p/plates on