w202 c280 sport 1998

[martinmerc]

Hi all two quick questions, going to do an oil change on the c280 can someone advise where the oil drain plug is, the filter is on top but what size wrench do I need?? And also is there a difference between c36 and c43 brake discs ?? Thanks guys

 

[andy27168]

Oil filter housing I just used a pair of large grips, and covered the housing with rag to stop it getting marked, drain plug in the side of the sump.
C43 front brakes and calliper's are the same as an 210 E55 and the 208 CLK55, c36 front brakes are different I think they might be the same as an SL500.
Are you planning on upgrading the brakes?

 

[martinmerc]

Its a c280 sport its amg from arches down mb confirmed this and said all the undercarriage is amg but haven't the ability to elaborate which causes a few issues ordering parts which I've just had to do for the rear springs but even mb spent a while sourcing them and just ordered the only pair from amg. So until I get round to take the wheels off and seeing what size brakes it has got just wondered if there was a difference between 36 and 43 for future reference

 

[andy27168]

As far as I am aware there was never an option for AMG suspension and brakes for the lesser models, bodykit, backbox, wheels yes.
Coil springs are specced by chassis, engine and the equipment level this generates a number which cross refs a pt. no. fundamentally there is no difference in the 202 AMG suspension and any model 202.
The springs are bought from MB not AMG, AMG is no longer a separate company and haven't been fully independent since the late eighties.
The problem I have found with MB dealers is that the parts people on the front counter are normally the less experienced employees I normally end up turning their PC round and navigate to the correct pages myself.
What did MB do confirm AMG?
Post up your Vin and I will get you your data card which will define exactly what your car left the factory with.

 

[martinmerc]

Amgeed did this on another post it left the factory with full amg undercarriage as shown on the data card. Its not really a lesser model and obviously a unique car as you can get c43 36 all day long. It does cause controversy but its what has been confirmed at two mb dealers with one of them being a older guy who knew these cars when they were new. I took it to mb have it checked over to find a spring was damaged they ordered the only set in the country from Milton Keynes. They told me its amg the springs are defined depending on the dot systems and subsequently the different ride heights and vary slightly depending on weather its a standard c class or sport or amg model

 

[martinmerc]

The data card doesn't show every single but and bolt on the car mb told me if you have certain extras ie the shell modification wheels etc then all the undercarriage is amg spec

 

[andy27168]

Regarding the oil filter removal there is a proper spanner that you can get and is quite cheaply available from Halfords
Laser Oil Filter Cup Wrench 76mm Remover Tool Socket BMW Audi Mercedes Porsche | eBay
But do assure yourself that it fits as there are some slight variations.
I am sorry but I think both the dealers you have been talking to too are talking out of their **** I can assure you the option codes you have are NOT rare in the slightest, I have them on my old C230K Sport, and there was nothing I would ever of considered AMG about it.
The option code for shell modification just means rolled arches, otherwise this option code would appear all over the EPC for the 202 suspension and it doesn't.
The other one just refers to the rubber wheel arch spats, which yours might of lost as they become unstuck, then one is lost, and replacements are stupid money.
They were codes that would automatically be added to the build sheet dependant on the wheel option and the intended market.

 

[martinmerc]

Your just a knob and dont no what your talking about I didn't say it was rare I said its unique with it being a c280 with amg spec

 

[nb_racing]

Your just a knob and dont no what your talking about I didn't say it was rare I said its unique with it being a c280 with amg spec

No need for that. And it's "you're" as in "you are". And "know" not "no". Etc.

And I can assure you Andy is one of the experts of c43 and 202's on this forum hence why he is offering his advice to you, which you have asked for.

I would be very surprised if your car has c43 brakes. I spent a long time researching after market brakes for mine and they are only on the cars Andy mentioned previously. However someone may have upgraded the car to AMG brakes. But I'm confident that it wouldn't have left the factory with them. What is the disc diameter? I am happy to be proved wrong.

 

[E55BOF]

Your just a knob and dont no what your talking about I didn't say it was rare I said its unique with it being a c280 with amg spec

If you only want your own belief confirmed, just say so, rather than asking for advice. There are a lot of very knowledgeable and helpful people on this forum, but abuse is unlikely to motivate them to help...

 

[grober]

Like all limited edition cars back then there were changes during production runs leading to almost unique setups. But most likely explanation was some post delivery modification- possibly even performed by the supplying dealer or even to special order C36 Front Brakes - MBWorld.org Forums

ps as a newbie its probably not a good idea to bad mouth people who are trying to help you. Disagree by all means but if you alienate people you won't get your problem answered.

 

[BlackC55]

The data card doesn't show every single but and bolt on the car mb told me if you have certain extras ie the shell modification wheels etc then all the undercarriage is amg spec

Give me the chassis number and I will tell you if it has AMG brakes and chassis.

 

[martinmerc]

I didn't ask for a lecture on weather its amg or not just if there was a difference in c36 or c43 brakes no one has fiddled with it its from the factory as is I wonted a merc not a amg if I wonted a 36or 43 I would have brought one I brought a c280 sport and since found out its got amg undercarriage and no its not just the wheels as said by mb they wouldn't lie they are the ones who are fitting the parts why would they order the wrong parts. I dont no if it has amg brakes or not that's why I asked the question of difference in break disc size

 

[John Jones Jr]

Your just a knob and dont no what your talking about I didn't say it was rare I said its unique with it being a c280 with amg spec

At the end of the day it's only a W202 C-class and sod all got to do with AMG. Sell and buy a BMW is my advice.

 

[BlackC55]

I didn't ask for a lecture on weather its amg or not just if there was a difference in c36 or c43 brakes no one has fiddled with it its from the factory as is I wonted a merc not a amg if I wonted a 36or 43 I would have brought one I brought a c280 sport and since found out its got amg undercarriage and no its not just the wheels as said by mb they wouldn't lie they are the ones who are fitting the parts why would they order the wrong parts. I dont no if it has amg brakes or not that's why I asked the question of difference in break disc size

Yes there is a difference.

Give me the chassis number and I will check for you. Do you have the invoices for the parts merc got you? I can check the parts numbers too.

If you use some punctuation you maybe able to put your point across much easier.

 

[martinmerc]

I'm more then happy with my c280 sport. I had quite a few BMW 5 7 series but always go back to Mercedes. People seem to get very precious about the word 'amg' and this site is very hostile. It has amg extras bar the engine and gearbox. Show me a c36/43 data card that has more then mine its only the interior gearbox and engine thats different so all put your toys in your prams

 

[BlackC55]

We are precious about it.

An AMG car is one with an AMG engine. Nothing else.

 

[KillerHERTZ]

Your just a knob and dont no what your talking about I didn't say it was rare I said its unique with it being a c280 with amg spec

Continue with that attitude and you wont be here long. - don't be so hostile!

These people are trying to help you

 

[nb_racing]

I'm more then happy with my c280 sport. I had quite a few BMW 5 7 series but always go back to Mercedes. People seem to get very precious about the word 'amg' and this site is very hostile. It has amg extras bar the engine and gearbox. Show me a c36/43 data card that has more then mine its only the interior gearbox and engine thats different so all put your toys in your prams

I think it's you getting precious about thinking your 202 c280 is an AMG...
This site certainly isn't hostile. If you are abusive and rude then what do you expect?

The internet is a strange place. I use forums as if I were speaking I people face to face.

Blackc55 is another expert on 202's and he will be willing to help if you provide your vin. .

 

[martinmerc]

I no its not an amg its a c280 sport with amg upgrades I asked a simple question and everyone started getting all ****ty