W202 HID Conversion.

[WLeg]

I've been emailing www.hids4u.co.uk regarding their recommended kit for my W202. They recommend their Ultimate H7 kit, as this will not cause the bulb failure light to be on.

http://www.hids4u.co.uk/store/product.php?productid=64&cat=16&page=1

Has anyone used and can recommend this kit ?





Below is also their reply to my question, regarding road use and the Daniel Stern articule....

Hi William,

Thank you for your e-mail. Aftermarket HID kits are not technically road legal as you are replacing a halogen bulb with a gas discharge bulb. This means the gas discharge bulb cannot be E marked and is therefore not road legal. Do not be fooled by sellers claiming their kits are road legal, they aren't.
However our kits produce the correct beam pattern and colour so will pass an MOT.

That article to be honest is way over the top, it is true that if you don't have the light source in the same place as on a halogen bulb you will not get a correct beam pattern, however if the kit is good quality the it will produce the correct beam pattern.
His last statement is actually quite a funny one "Therefore, they cannot be overcome by additional research and development, any more than someone could develop a way for you to put on somebody else's eyeglasses and see correctly." If you picked someone who had the same prescription glasses as you then of course you would be able to see correctly! in the same way if the light source is in the right place then it will give the correct beam pattern.

What he says about projector headlights is just incorrect. We have a car here with projector lights and an HID kit fitted and the beam pattern is perfect, there is a much brighter and evenly spread light emitted and it has already gone through the MOT twice! He sounds like someone who had a cheap kit that didn't work properly and has decided to post an article damming them through spite. BUT at the end of the day, aftermarket HID kits are not and probably will never be road legal despite the claims of other sellers.

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Kind Regards
Pete

HIDS4U Ltd

www.hids4u.co.uk
0844 8842600

 

[vijilants]

There are many posts on this subject and the verdict is go to Bosch and buy the proper Xenon headlights for this vehicle and replace.

 

[WLeg]

I agree. Until I asked for price from MB.....£700.00 just to supply, Didn't ask for them to fit, but this would also need coding via Star....Not worth it on a W202, 8 years old, that cost £1000.00 These are only £200, supplied, no star, self-install.

 

[Shude]

I agree. Until I asked for price from MB.....£700.00 just to supply...

£700 to supply what exactly?

 

[vijilants]

Shude....correct me if Im wrong but didn't you fit Bosch Xenons but they were a lot cheaper directly from Bosch ?

 

[Shude]

Shude....correct me if Im wrong but didn't you fit Bosch Xenons but they were a lot cheaper directly from Bosch ?

The Bosch xenons were about £580 I think, including housings, bulbs, control units/ballasts and clear indicators. That was from a Bosch retailer.

 

[vijilants]

I agree. Until I asked for price from MB.....£700.00 just to supply, Didn't ask for them to fit, but this would also need coding via Star....Not worth it on a W202, 8 years old, that cost £2000.00 These are only £200, supplied, no star, self-install.

Get some Osram Nightbreakers - £16 on ebay, safe, and very bright !

 

[Shude]

Get some Osram Nightbreakers - £16 on ebay, safe, and very bright !

Yes and if some of the scaremongering going around is to be believed then you can fit those Osram bulbs without having to go to prison for having retrofitted xenons

 

[stevesey]

Get some Osram Nightbreakers - £16 on ebay, safe, and very bright !

Just got mine - fitted passenger side only first to try to compare - definately whiter. Need to go for a drive on an unlit road this weekend to see the difference.

 

[Alps]

WLeg - they are the same kits, different manufacturers, the beam pattern will never be legal unless you change lens and housing as its this that determins the beam NOT the bulb as the HID place that emailed you claimed! And on top of that all that rubbish abt "E" marking the bulb... rubbish!

original is the only legal beam producing way of doing it!

 

[Spinal]

As everyone else mentioned; the kit hids4u are supplying is illegal to use on the road; and they quite clearly state that themselves.

You won't get a clear, crisp legal beam pattern. You might get a fuzzy/indistinct beam pattern that sort of complies with the MOT tester's machines, but it wonlt be legal and you will dazzle other road users thus being a hazard on the road.

Another point to question is insurance. Will you insurance company still insure you knowing you fitted a set of aftermarket; off-road-use HID bulbs? If you don't tell them, then your insurance will probably be invalid - if you do, you might have trouble explaining that they will pass an mot event though you didn't change the housing/lense...

I'm not against aftermarket, just ensure you change the housing and lense too!

Michele

 

[Shude]

I should add that I have seen a set of hids4u xenons working in an r170 SLK which belongs to a member of this forum and they look great. The beam pattern is fine and the light looks great on the road.

If you are going to buy an aftermarket kit it is worth spending the extra few pounds on the hids4u ultimate type.

 

[Alps]

I should add that I have seen a set of hids4u xenons working in an r170 SLK which belongs to a member of this forum and they look great. The beam pattern is fine and the light looks great on the road.

If you are going to buy an aftermarket kit it is worth spending the extra few pounds on the hids4u ultimate type.

how can they get the beam pattern correct with HID in a standard housing??

 

[WLeg]

£700 to supply what exactly?

I didn't get the part no, just asked for what I needed to convert.....

Can you recommend a decent Bosch supplier, and let me have the relevant part no's ?

 

[WLeg]

Just got mine - fitted passenger side only first to try to compare - definately whiter. Need to go for a drive on an unlit road this weekend to see the difference.

As we seem to have the same car....please let me know how you rate the Nightbreakers....

 

[Shude]

how can they get the beam pattern correct with HID in a standard housing??

They don't look like standard HID capsules, they look like whatever bulb they are designed to replace. The result is that the bulb mimics the original bulb but is just 2.5x brighter, the light pattern is unaffected.

 

[gl boy]

read somewhere that if the bulbs or unit you use if they are to high powered they can melt the plastic lenses...regards jon

 

[Shude]

read somewhere that if the bulbs or unit you use if they are to high powered they can melt the plastic lenses...regards jon

Correct.

AFAIK HID runs cooler than filament lights, also the W202 has glass lenses.

 

[whitenemesis]

Has anyone fitted xenon bulbs to their foglights?

 

[gl boy]

that would just p### me of all the boy racers and people who can't drive have them on all the time idiots