Water/flood damaged cars
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I remember seeing a lot of flood damaged cars for sale in the 60s. Almost impossible to get all the water out of the chassis etc , and interiors were scrap. the smell generally gave the game away , shortly followed by severe rust. And this was before the days of complex electronic components,
Isn't there also an issue of water in the engines etc?
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There were loads for sale a couple of years back , someone even joined up after buying a 216 CL cheap that was flood damaged. He never got it running and sold it on again.
Trouble with modern MB's is that the ECU's for most things are in the footwells and cable ducts ( lowest points of the car ).
There's a reason flood damaged cars are written off when they look cosmetically perfect.
I wouldn't consider a flood damaged car personally , whereas i may consider one that has been written off after a knock.
Trouble with modern MB's is that the ECU's for most things are in the footwells and cable ducts ( lowest points of the car ).
There's a reason flood damaged cars are written off when they look cosmetically perfect.
I wouldn't consider a flood damaged car personally , whereas i may consider one that has been written off after a knock.
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Mercs are bad enough when the water is falling from above. They biodegrade beautifully.
Not for me ...
Not for me ...
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I see that you are selling a flood damaged car.
What did that one cost to repair?
What did that one cost to repair?
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If it is clearly advertised as a repaired, flood-damaged car then there is really no problem. It's up to the buyer to decide the risk against the saving.
Not one for me, I'm afraid.
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I've dealt with a lot of Salvage Mercs over the years.
We had a GL that had been driven through water and caused hydraulic damage. + very slight low interior damage - We recorded it as a CAT C and it was sold through the network via our selected private salvage traders. - Due to the nature of our vehicle acquisition method, we had to advise Mercedes that the car would not be returned to them due to M.A.D conditions of the contract.
3 months later I had a call from a the guy who had purchased, doing backflips at the fact that Mercedes were not putting a free replacement engine in it under warranty.
As we sold it, Merc basically recorded on their system this vehicle had been stripped of any warranty conditions and the guy was left with a nice hefty bill for a complete engine.
Moral is, be careful what seems a bargain, is not always a bargain.
For reference, any vehicle that sustained complete flooding was always classified as C.A.T B and destroyed due to interior sewerage contamination.
We had a GL that had been driven through water and caused hydraulic damage. + very slight low interior damage - We recorded it as a CAT C and it was sold through the network via our selected private salvage traders. - Due to the nature of our vehicle acquisition method, we had to advise Mercedes that the car would not be returned to them due to M.A.D conditions of the contract.
3 months later I had a call from a the guy who had purchased, doing backflips at the fact that Mercedes were not putting a free replacement engine in it under warranty.
As we sold it, Merc basically recorded on their system this vehicle had been stripped of any warranty conditions and the guy was left with a nice hefty bill for a complete engine.
Moral is, be careful what seems a bargain, is not always a bargain.
For reference, any vehicle that sustained complete flooding was always classified as C.A.T B and destroyed due to interior sewerage contamination.
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Why Cat C for that? It should have been Cat D.
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Due to overall repair cost vs valuation of vehicle - way above that of a D criteria so decision was made by assessors.
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The Category is meant o be severity, not value.
The ABI Categories of 'Write-Off'
Category A: Scrap only - this vehicle should have been crushed. It should never reappear on the road and there are no economically salvageable parts. It is of value only for scrap metal - e.g. a totally burnt-out vehicle.
Category B: The bodyshell should have been crushed. The vehicle should never reappear on the road, but it can be broken for spare parts plus any residual scrap metal.
Category C: Vehicle extensively damaged and insurer has decided not to repair. The vehicle should have an independent inspection before being allowed back onto the road.
Category D: Vehicle damaged and insurer has decided not to repair.
Category F: Vehicle damaged by fire and insurer has decided not to repair.
The ABI Categories of 'Write-Off'
Category A: Scrap only - this vehicle should have been crushed. It should never reappear on the road and there are no economically salvageable parts. It is of value only for scrap metal - e.g. a totally burnt-out vehicle.
Category B: The bodyshell should have been crushed. The vehicle should never reappear on the road, but it can be broken for spare parts plus any residual scrap metal.
Category C: Vehicle extensively damaged and insurer has decided not to repair. The vehicle should have an independent inspection before being allowed back onto the road.
Category D: Vehicle damaged and insurer has decided not to repair.
Category F: Vehicle damaged by fire and insurer has decided not to repair.
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DM.
These vehicles were self insured. - Severity of damage is incorrect - it can be valuation based as well. Trust me I was there, agreed on the decision, discussed with GM and asesors. - I've dealt with hundreds of Damaged vehicles, many of them Mercedes both recorded and non-recorded damage.
For more direct enhanced info than you kindly provided :
Source: Car check - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
CAT C guidelines.
Q: Why may the insurer not have repaired the vehicle?
A: The inspecting engineer considered the vehicle repairable, however the costs exceeded the Pre Accident Value of the vehicle. This marker is not an indication that a vehicle is un-roadworthy, but that the insurance company involved in the claim has made the decision not to repair it purely for economic reasons.
Q: What scale of damage may the vehicle have had?
A: The damage level varies greatly for a Cat C vehicle. The damage may be quite extensive (but not structural) on a fairly new car, however in contrast the damage may be very light on an old car. This vehicle may have been submerged in water up to the floor level. This category is purely an economically constructed total loss. It simply states that the insurer chose to not repair the vehicle for economic reasons.
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These vehicles were self insured. - Severity of damage is incorrect - it can be valuation based as well. Trust me I was there, agreed on the decision, discussed with GM and asesors. - I've dealt with hundreds of Damaged vehicles, many of them Mercedes both recorded and non-recorded damage.
For more direct enhanced info than you kindly provided :
Source: Car check - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
CAT C guidelines.
Q: Why may the insurer not have repaired the vehicle?
A: The inspecting engineer considered the vehicle repairable, however the costs exceeded the Pre Accident Value of the vehicle. This marker is not an indication that a vehicle is un-roadworthy, but that the insurance company involved in the claim has made the decision not to repair it purely for economic reasons.
Q: What scale of damage may the vehicle have had?
A: The damage level varies greatly for a Cat C vehicle. The damage may be quite extensive (but not structural) on a fairly new car, however in contrast the damage may be very light on an old car. This vehicle may have been submerged in water up to the floor level. This category is purely an economically constructed total loss. It simply states that the insurer chose to not repair the vehicle for economic reasons.
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Afraid not, my friend has just bought a damaged Porsche Turbo that is a Cat D, yet if I showed you a photo, you wouldn't even be able to tell what make of car it is, such is the damage.
The marker is put on the value of the repair, not the severity.
And I'm pretty sure that it is possible to repair a Cat-B car and put it back on the road, I just can't remember the complete process. I'll find out tomorrow for sure.
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^^ CAT B is parts that have value of £50 only - ( correct requirements are ) vehicle has to be dismantled and chassis crushed i.e not allowed back on the road.
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Cat D could simply mean a new engine or a ripped out interior.
Potentially easy fixes if you have the time and ability.
Potentially easy fixes if you have the time and ability.
