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What is it with Merc's n Bradford

stwat said:
Asian gang culture is well known in Bradford and has always had links to the motor trade. It has been known about in the motor trade for many years. Links to the motor trade, drugs and prostitution are well known. Paedophilia also linked to such gangs. There is nothing racist in me saying this. It is just fact. Go look it up.

Obviously this behaviour is not only the reserve of the Asian here in the UK. Many other cultures living in the UK including your average white UK born man, also indulge in such seedy and disgusting activities.

God I hate this PC ****e where people are scared to post the truth.

The war criminal Tony Blair and his cronies have a lot to answer for. They ruined this country.
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You are being PC again. When you say Asian are you referring to Chinese, Sikhs, Hindu, Christians, Bangladeshis. Its a shame its mostly one community but they are yet to tackle this from within and neither is any establishment. Adil Ray (Citizen Khan) has highlighted this problem within the Pakistani community and then even further its mostly people from a certain region within that country.

But everyone just says Asians. The Sikh's have campaigned against journalism from corporations such as the BBC to stop saying Asian when referring to these gangs and be more specific?
 
While gang culture does tend to have a specific 'signature' based on the ethnicity or the demographics of the local population, having gangs and gang culture as such are not limited to any one group.

I.e. Jamaican or Caribbean gang culture (that would be Brixton, not Bradford) is different to white yobs gang culture or East European gang culture (relatively new import) etc.

But (sadly) every community/ethnicity/demographics has an element of vandals who create their own 'legal' system on their own turf and flout the law of the land where they can.

I doubt that there's anything that is currently being done in Bradford by (some) Asians that has not been done by (some) good old English East Londoners (before developers got hold of most of East London...), and probably is still going on elsewhere in the UK.
 
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PaulG said:
Expecting certain types of behaviour from people becaues they come from East London is highly Racist...
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How so? No particular race was mentioned, so no racism.

This really is getting stupid now and stwat summed it up nicely in Post# 77
 
Markjay DID say English East London....

Or is English not a race now?
 
JAT350e said:
You are being PC again. When you say Asian are you referring to Chinese, Sikhs, Hindu, Christians, Bangladeshis. Its a shame its mostly one community but they are yet to tackle this from within and neither is any establishment. Adil Ray (Citizen Khan) has highlighted this problem within the Pakistani community and then even further its mostly people from a certain region within that country.

But everyone just says Asians. The Sikh's have campaigned against journalism from corporations such as the BBC to stop saying Asian when referring to these gangs and be more specific?
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Sikhs and Christians aren't a race, they're religions. Every community has good and bad people. You seem like you'd be happy as long as it didn't involve Sikhs but what about the people you're stereotyping? Surely that's the same thing as stereotyping all Asians...
 
True you get good and bad in all communities.

It's just a pain hearing Asian this and Asian that on the news 24/7.
 
PaulG said:
Expecting certain types of behaviour from people becaues they come from East London is highly Racist...
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PaulG said:
Markjay DID say English East London....

Or is English not a race now?
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My view is that whether the English are a race or not is irrelevant to the discussion.

I did say that some of the English people (whether a race or not) in East London were involved in certain type of activity.

I did not say that all - or most - or many - of the English people (whether a race or not) in East London were involved in said type of activity.

It's like saying that most paedophiles are middle-aged white men. This may be true, but clearly this is not a racist or stereotyping statement against middle-aged white men. Obviously the proportion of middle-aged white men who are paedophiles out of the overall middle-aged white men population represents a very tiny minority. If you meet a middle-aged white men, the chances that he is a paedophile are very very small indeed.

Similarly, if you meet one of Columbia's 50m citizens in person, the chances of him or her being a member of a drug cartel are not very high..... but this is not to say that Columbian drug cartels do not exist. Nor is it racists to say that it.

So yes, historicity there were English people in East London who were involved in questionable activates. Some even wrote their memoirs... And it is not racist to say that. It is a simple fact, and it does not reflect on all English people or on all East Londoners.

I think that part of the issue is that some people (present company excluded...) tend to interpret certain things in certain ways, perhaps understandably so because they are predispositioned to do so due to a long history of very real racism.

But looking at it impartially, these are not racist comments.
 
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JAT350e said:
It's just a pain hearing Asian this and Asian that on the news 24/7.
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It's just a broad brush. 'African' and 'European' or 'American' are not really any different in that they cover a wide range of groups and cultures.

It would be just so much better if we properly codified every ethnicity and sub-ethnicity and sub culture.

So a G518278/62/54 could be a British Indian Sikh and a S627162/20/96 could be a British Chinese Buddhist and a Z506521/77/73 could be an Icelandic Caucasian Satanist.

Then the news could report accurately like five P617622/54/21 and two P617822/02/17 males were involved in an news item involving a lottery syndicate and a winning ticket.

Or we could have very specific jokes such as 'Did you hear the one about the G518278/62/54, S627162/20/96, and a Z506521/77/73'?
 
Incidentally... race is not a biological definition.

We are all members of the same species .

The term 'race' has place in Social Sciences but not in Life Sciences.

So it tends to be loosely adapted to the needs of the conversation....
 
JAT350e said:
True you get good and bad in all communities.

It's just a pain hearing Asian this and Asian that on the news 24/7.
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Chill out Sardarjee. I'm not too keen on Pakistanis either and to add to that , Pakistanis don't like other Pakistanis. Btw, I'm married to one.

There you go I said it ( waits for the wrath of Druk ....)
 
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