What is it with Merc's n Bradford

[AMGeed]

^ You're on the naughty step now Harry

I'm out of this thread now. It's like walking on eggshells posting your thoughts.

We should stick to car discussions

 

[Steve320]

It's just a broad brush. 'African' and 'European' or 'American' are not really any different in that they cover a wide range of groups and cultures. It would be just so much better if we properly codified every ethnicity and sub-ethnicity and sub culture. So a G518278/62/54 could be a British Indian Sikh and a S627162/20/96 could be a British Chinese Buddhist and a Z506521/77/73 could be an Icelandic Caucasian Satanist. Then the news could report accurately like five P617622/54/21 and two P617822/02/17 males were involved in an news item involving a lottery syndicate and a winning ticket. Or we could have very specific jokes such as 'Did you hear the one about the G518278/62/54, S627162/20/96, and a Z506521/77/73'?

Could I be a W211...

 

[Gollom]

^ You're on the naughty step now Harry

I'm out of this thread now. It's like walking on eggshells posting your thoughts.

We should stick to car discussions

Agreed. I have been away from the forum for a while, and thought this kind of post that skirts on the edge of being unpleasant (started out nice enough) would have stopped - but I see not

 

[HB]

^ You're on the naughty step now Harry

I'm out of this thread now. It's like walking on eggshells posting your thoughts.

We should stick to car discussions

It's just a bit of jest aimed at Pakistanis who know exactly what I mean. No racism implied. The problem is, there's just far too much pc about these days.

 

[kam09]

Sikhs and Christians aren't a race, they're religions. Every community has good and bad people. You seem like you'd be happy as long as it didn't involve Sikhs but what about the people you're stereotyping? Surely that's the same thing as stereotyping all Asians...

Absolutely spot on..

 

[kam09]

I agree that some Asians partake in such behaviour but as the Asian population is very much in the minority, there far more 'white' groups partaking in this but the media likes flouting Asians a lot more. If a white person or group does something then the fact that they're white doesn't seem to be mentioned but if an Asian does something, that tends to dominate the headlines. And it's not that this is a new occurance.

Hit the "nail on the head" there!

 

[kam09]

It's just a bit of jest aimed at Pakistanis who know exactly what I mean. No racism implied. The problem is, there's just far too much pc about these days.

LOL yeh have to say there's certain fellow Pakistanis I do not like for various reasons..

 

[kam09]

It's like you get a culture within a culture, problem is media nowdays don't look at culture but instead generalise and target religion hence "islamaphobia" which is going off topic but anyway..

 

[kam09]

Btw I'm enjoying this thread lol so mods try and not delete this thread ; p

 

[92Adam]

^ You're on the naughty step now Harry

I'm out of this thread now. It's like walking on eggshells posting your thoughts.

We should stick to car discussions

Amen to that

Unfortunately in life he/she who bangs his drum the loudest is always heard and noted

Despite the horrible drivel he/she may be spewing out...

It's not to much to ask to be just be happy & content people

Always in life there are others who's problems are genuinely worse than ours...

I think I need to now take a paracetamol and lay down for a while


Regards Bradford8 Massive

Must confess have only been to Bradford once and found
It no different to any other town/City in W.Yorks.

 

[Druk]

Btw I'm enjoying this thread lol so mods try and not delete this thread ; p

If I hadn't sat and broke a poppadomdomdom with Harry and know what he's like and speaks in jest he'd have been outa here many moons ago...however.

 

[Gurd63]

You will get some good and bad in all towns.. But do take a look at kahn's designs who originate in Bradford and who are Pakistani.. They produce high end bodykits and are millionaires.. Enough said..

Ermm high end? I was stupid enough to pay a lot of money for a kahn kit for my Bentley (i know...) The kit was atrocious, spent 5 months in a bodyshop getting it correct. Went to the Kahn HQ, realising that thats how their kits actually fit!!

To me they seemed like many of the other Bradford Dealers, but with bling'd up trainers

 

[markjay]

Markjay, if race has no firm definition, how can anyone be "Racist"?

Correct, and this is why people always seem to be accusing others of being 'Racist' but they never see themselves as being ones...

A better word would probably be Stereotyping. This implies that you assume a person will behave in a certain way or posses certain traits just because they belong to certain group.

The problem is that it is not logically flawed. If (say) most paedophiles are indeed middle aged white men, then yes you would reduce your chances of actually meeting one in person if you decide you do not meet any middle aged white men, ever....

The obvious issue is that in doing so you will be discriminating against very many middle aged white men who are not paedophiles.

The question is not only if most dodgy car dealers in Bradford are of certain ethnic origin. The relevant question is also what percentage of those ethnics in Bradford are dodgy car dealers?

If the answer to the first question is that the vast majority of car dealers in Bradford are of certain ethnicity and are also dodgy, then don't buy a car in Bradford because the probability of getting ripped-off is high. Fair and square.

But at the same time, if the answer to the other question is that overall only a minority of those ethnics are dodgy car dealers, then there is no reason to discriminate against others of the same ethnicity just because a tiny minority are doing things they shouldn't.

Stereotyping is justified when the statistics support it, e.g.:

Most lions are dangerous, so you would probably be better off shooting one if it is fast approaching you.

But only a tiny minority of dogs are dangerous, so you would be acting very unreasonably if you fired at any advancing dog you encounter.

To me, Racism is the process of applying certain misconception to an entire group of people when in fact these are either completely wrong or in reality apply only to a minority of members of that group.

And since I don't know what 'Race' is anyway, it matters not what the said group has in common - same gene pool, same gendre, same sexual tendency, same religion, same profession, or just living in the same county or city.

As long as they have something in common that can identify them as a 'group', and the negative traits of the few are then pre-applied to all members of this group, I would consider this to be 'Racist'.

 

[DickiPhitt]

Interestingly a mate of mine was recently talking to a Merc indy, not a million miles from Bradford, who has a taxi driving customer who gets his own tame (non Merc) mechanic to swap out the complete dash panel several times each year so that it looks, for MOT (and maybe tax?) purposes like the car has only done a few thousand miles a year.

 

[a111r]

Interestingly a mate of mine was recently talking to a Merc indy, not a million miles from Bradford, who has a taxi driving customer who gets his own tame (non Merc) mechanic to swap out the complete dash panel several times each year so that it looks, for MOT (and maybe tax?) purposes like the car has only done a few thousand miles a year.

On the older C and E Classes I've had, once you know how and have the right pullers, a speedo exchange takes a couple of minutes.

 

[John]

Unless everything gets a lot more clever (i.e. ANPR everywhere and powerful enough to log all cars journeys and mileage all the time, cars using radio to beam their registration details back etc.), I can't see this problem of clocked cars going away.

 

[markjay]

Unless everything gets a lot more clever (i.e. ANPR everywhere and powerful enough to log all cars journeys and mileage all the time, cars using radio to beam their registration details back etc.), I can't see this problem of clocked cars going away.

A savi buyer will match service and MOT records and will check the car for tale-tell signs of heavy usage, then walk away from anything that does not look right. But yes ultimately some will fall for it.

 

[John Jones Jr]

Unless everything gets a lot more clever (i.e. ANPR everywhere and powerful enough to log all cars journeys and mileage all the time, cars using radio to beam their registration details back etc.), I can't see this problem of clocked cars going away.

I'm never really too concerned about buying a clocked one. Gernerally speaking checking with the DVLA will avoid it along with the other usual checks.

What does concern me is buying mutton dressed as lamb and from my experiences even with low'ish or average mileage cars there's plenty of rubbish out there, especially anything over seven years old that's considered performance, trendy or aspirational. I'm now on the hunt since April (on & off) for two cars and still haven't had success.