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Whats your strategy for year 2030 / ban of ICE vehicles?

markjay said:
Are you referring to this?

www.rac.co.uk

Is the 2030 ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel cars set to be delayed? | RAC Drive

The UK Government’s decision to ban the sale of new petrol and diesel cars by 2030 has been discussed in Parliament - could it be delayed?
www.rac.co.uk www.rac.co.uk

www.driving.co.uk

Discussions taking place to make 2030 ban on new petrol and diesel cars voluntary

The government is looking at relaxing the 2030 ban on new petrol and diesel cars, according to a source, after poll for The Times showed support among Tory voters has more than halved.
www.driving.co.uk www.driving.co.uk

That's from last month.
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Hi , yes but I live in Malvern !
 
markjay said:
Which one is 'his' and which one is 'hers'? In this day and age one mustn't make assumptions 😇
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Mrs D’s is the modern (blue) car - she enjoys convenience, comfort and refinement.

Mine is the modern classic (red) car - I enjoy a raw, analogue and sporting experience.
 
My strategy is to get a 1990s CL in the next 2-3 years.

Not been a Mercedes driver for a while but going to come back with one of those and run it for as long as I can.

Not sure if it will be a 420 or a 500. The 600 is just too thirsty.

So it will probably end up being a 600 🤣

Very much looking forward to it but funds do not permit at the moment alas.

TMW
 
Bobby Dazzler said:
Mrs D’s is the modern (blue) car - she enjoys convenience, comfort and refinement.

Mine is the modern classic (red) car - I enjoy a raw, analogue and sporting experience.
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Powered By Brabus? :banana:
 
ChipChop said:
I can spot 3 non complaint old vehicles in that photo. The Suzuki Supercarry? mini van and the two old white Vauxhall Astras. Maybe they are rarely driven or perhaps the owners know routes that avoid Khan's network of enforcement cameras.

Suppose Londoners who own motorhomes taxed as private HGV's have no choice but to fork out for storage somewhere outside of the M25. Still at least there are some compliant HGV options if you get creative.:p

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I saw this beauty at an event just on Sunday


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MikeInWimbledon said:
Car dealerships have always had insufficient parking for their customers. It's the nature of the business.

The point that I made was the broader point of the literally millions of Brits who are lucky enough to have parking onsite at work, even in this day and age.
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Many employers simply wouldn't get staff without offering it ; I wouldn't take a job any distance from work if I couldn't park ; and I am not about to start paying for parking , so that would be another deal breaker .
 
Bellow said:
Under JR Weirs ownership, on-site parking was permitted. Under Arnold Clark's - no. The benevolence of the employer is required - hardly a given.

Luck.....


For anyone (many) who can't charge at home, at work, or on the street - hanging about in public car parks is all that is available. One step up from hanging around on street corners.
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Staff do have a parking area at M-B Glasgow , also AC .
 
MikeInWimbledon said:
It's great to hear that you only want to park at home and never park at the supermarket, pub, restaurant, or cinema. But that's hardly "normal." Look around you. Vast tracts of car parking, everywhere, that can host very simple charging points.

You may not ever park away from home for as much as thirty minutes - long enough to charge an EV to 80% - but most do find they do that, particularly on that one occasion in 20 charges when they're more than 100 miles away from home, so need a few minutes charge to top up enough to get them back home.

Obviously most try to never use a charger away from home. Why would you when your home charger is so cheap?
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My Tesla owning friend told me it costs him between £3 and £5 to recharge at home overnight ; an expensive option when there is free charging about 500 yds down the road ; he tends to come home at night , leave the car down in the car park , and goes back when it is fully charged , his mobile app tells him when it is charged and he walks back down ; if at work , there is free charging there as well , so it is only if he's been away on a trip ; he virtually never spends his own money charging at home .

Oh , and he still gets the same mileage allowance for business use as he would if using an ICE car .
 
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Pontoneer said:
...he virtually never spends his own money charging at home .
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MikeInWimbledon said:
So, how many days a week do you drive more than 300 miles in a day?

That's to say, far enough to use up the charge that you would put into your car between ending one day and starting another?
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Since the pandemic , and the switch to hybrid or home working , I don't do the mileages I used to .

Before that , my minimum daily mileage was the 70 mile round trip to the office ; with additional journeys more often than not . Living in Ayrshire it was far from unusual to be going to Edinburgh , Dundee , Aberdeen , Inverness , Fort William , Oban or Dumfries areas on an almost daily basis - even a trip to Campbelltown is a four hour drive each way so in fact one of the longest journeys , and I have a job to do there at some point soon ; so 300 mile daily journeys were commonplace for me .

These days , I do still travel to all of these places , but much less frequently , and I try to build multiple jobs into each journey ; still I was in Aberdeen last week , Inverness the week before and will be in Edinburgh next week . Due a trip to Lerwick next month , but that will be a flight ; ferry from Aberdeen is impractical , but might be needed if I had to take goods or equipment with me . I did take the car to Stornoway last year ( ferry from Ullapool ) as I had a boot load of equipment to deliver whilst there .
 
In the news today

uk.yahoo.com

Five cars destroyed at Sydney airport after luxury electric vehicle’s battery ignites

Lithium battery that was detached from car caused a fire that then spread to four others
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While I know that petrol cars can and do ignite if the fuel system is ruptured and there is a source of ignition , these fires are relatively easy to extinguish . Also spillages of petrol mostly don't ignite unless something sets them off , and the stuff tends to evaporate away fairly quickly . Diesel on the other hand is very difficult to ignite and rarely does get involved in fires ; however it is a heavy oil which does not evaporate and tends to need to be cleaned up if it gets on a road since it causes a major skid hazard - which any motorcyclist will confirm !

There are many fewer EVs , so not as many EV fires just yet , but when they do ignite they are very difficult to extinguish , and it seems to need very little damage to the EVs to compromise the batteries , even something like mounting a kerb can do it and the damage may not be apparent at the time . Many fire services are now investing in specialist vehicles , which are basically a large tank of water , into which the burning EV is dunked and completely immersed ; this at least seems to contain the damage . These vehicles can cost around half a million , and will still need time to reach the incident , so I guess few brigades in the UK will have more than one of them at present .
 
Pontoneer said:
My Tesla owning friend told me it costs him between £3 and £5 to recharge at home overnight ; an expensive option when there is free charging about 500 yds down the road ; he tends to come home at night , leave the car down in the car park , and goes back when it is fully charged , his mobile app tells him when it is charged and he walks back down ; if at work , there is free charging there as well , so it is only if he's been away on a trip ; he virtually never spends his own money charging at home .

Oh , and he still gets the same mileage allowance for business use as he would if using an ICE car .
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Great story.

So he probably doesn’t spend three or four grand a year on fuel.

What’s not to like?
 
Risking being repetitious, my point is only about the sadness of people who think they have to drive to a charging station for an hour at the start of the day to charge up for a morning’s work. They just can’t get their heads around how EV’s work.

There are many reasons not to convert to EV’s yet.

If anyone knows of a European political party opposed to the EV transition, so let us know.

From SNP to AfD, they’re all behind the change because of Climate Change and CO2. The timeline might slip, but no political party in Europe is against it. (In the Southern Hemisphere? That’s a different story)
 
Some of these vehicles would also be great post 2030 vehicles ; and also ULEZ exempt due to age , also not modified as they were mostly built from scratch like that as 'specials' .

Also the flaming exhausts would make them excellent anti JSO cars !

Just a thought ... is Brooklands now in the zone ?

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