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Charles Morgan

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Forgive me for this, it is as much a means of letting off some steam as sharing of the experience of just witnessing a nasty motorcycle accident.

I took two close friends out for a walk in the Chilterns today, a nice eight miler around the edge of the Chequers estate and through the beech woodlands of the Chilterns there. The trees are just taking on a slight golden brown and the combination of lovely views over Bucks and Beds, the company and the exercise itself, I was in a good mood. My feet hurt, I had chafing in the upper trouser area but I was feeling mellow. Given I had no food in, I stopped in my local Sichuanese to have a stunning series of dishes piled high with aromatic chilies, the endorphin release from the chili adding to the glow. Driving home the last half mile, at the junction just prior to my street, the traffic was backed up and slow.

Suddenly, in a second, a motorcyclist filtering past me was hit by a Mercedes A class that just pulled out, the manoeuvre just after signalling. Before one could even think, the biker was on the ground, and in the best of London, already a waiter from the Spanish restaurant opposite called the emergency services, and three people rushed to help the biker, who at this point was in evident distress.

Astonishingly, I was the only one of the drivers who saw the scene to pull over. Cars tried to force their way past, and one stopped to survey the scene blocking the road and had to be sent off with a sharp word from one of the helpers. Suddenly the sound of sirens then the blue lights, and the ambulance arrived within no more than two minutes, then a paramedic, and then the police, all within the next minute. My admiration for paramedics is considerable. They took the time to engage and re-assure, radiating calm efficiency, they checked his pain levels and administered the initial pain relief. He was hit hard in the back by the bike coming down, and his distress was upsetting. My sister was seriously injured in a bike accident 25 years ago, and as we were nearby, were on the scene within a few minutes. This brought it all back, and I found myself tearing up.

All the usual precautions deployed, spinal boards used, he was in the ambulance within 15 minutes. Meanwhile the Police, again, models of calm, had re-directed the traffic, one officer interviewed the Mercedes driver, others assisted the paramedic. Meanwhile, the number of gawpers just grew. I hate to witness the suffering of others, so this was just ridiculous.

Finally one officer took my details, and I was able to give a clear statement, having been in a position to witness it all. The biker was filtering carefully and not too fast, his injuries were obviously serious, so with the arrival of the traffic officer, the road became a crime scene and was closed.

I am still a little shocked, a perfect day ending so shockingly, one man on his way to the casualty in a hospital I know well, another woman to spend time contemplating what she had done with her car. All in a fraction of a second, one moment normality, the next serious injury and the whole grim process of dealing with the aftermath. I hope he recovers, the speeds were fortunately very low, but he must have taken a severe blow to the lower back.

I drove to my front door, observing a cyclist with no lights in the gloom and found myself shouting at him, pointlessly as he couldn't possibly hear. Just a momentary lapse, not using the mirrors, not clocking the motorcyclist. We hold our life and others in our hands, but we are just fallible apes, cocooned too often in a world of our own. I suspect I shall drive like I am glass for the next week or so.

I think it is time for some of my best whisky. Too often I moan about the Nanny state, the Police and drivers. Tonight thank heavens for them and the paramedics. The first drop will be a toast.
 
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Hi Charles, a very good post but an awful thing to experience - I ride a motorcycle and commute to work everyday on a scooter and it's only when you witness things like this you realise how vulnerable we all are. I too hope the rider makes a full and speedy recovery.

You should be proud of the fact that you took the time to stay and provide details of what happened and have a second toast to yourself.
 
A nasty event indeed. I hope it all works out well for the biker.

As a new driver I once almost T-boned a biker. At a T-junction I 'looked' but didn't see. A sobering lesson learnt early on.
 
How frail we all are Charles and how much power we hold in our hands when they clasp a wheel or a twist grip.
Knowing you, briefly, as I do. I am not one bit surprised you stopped and gave witness statements and assisted where ever possible.
To be hoped the motorcyclist recovers well and the A Class driver regains the confidence to drive again soon.
 
What a wonderful post, and a salutory lesson for all of us.
My thanks for your help and consideration for all involved.
 
It's lovely out that way. A couple of great hills either side of Butler's Cross with spectacular views, Monument Hill & Combe Hill.

About 5 years ago I took my kids up Monument Hill for a little walking expedition & started heading from the top of it over towards Combe Hill when a couple of black clad Ninja type cops with machine guns emerged from the undergrowth, headed us off & asked me if I was aware I was heading into Chequers territory. They'd rather I didn't.

They were v. polite & we had a little chat then went off in another direction. I knew Chequers was around there somewhere but wasn't aware how close we were to it. They've since fenced off the E. side of Monument Hill (& put a bloody CCTV up on the top of it) so one cannot go that way.

That whole area is full of hill forts, settlements, Roman bits & pieces - absolutely steeped in history.

On the biker, TBH I think you have to be nuts to ride a bike in any city. Even using extreme caution it's just a question of time until you get nailed. What would be a fender bender with two cars coming together on a bike can take your life away.
 
I gave up biking after being boarded and collard Brighton Hospital.

The bike is dead, long live the ML
 
It suddenly occurred to me that my breath must have been pure garlic, so Mr PC if you are reading, sorry, the crushed cucumbers with chili and crushed garlic were responsible, but may I plead in mitigation it is a great dish that went extremely well with the Husband and Wife mixed offal slices with chilli oil and peanuts, and the Szechuan Chicken (in which I counted over 30 roasted red chilis). Number 10 in Earls Court is a great (and reasonable) Sichuanese, don't go if you don't like chilli.

Some Glenlivet 15 year fine oak slipped down rather nicely, so I am feeling much more mellow.
 
It suddenly occurred to me that my breath must have been pure garlic, so Mr PC if you are reading, sorry, the crushed cucumbers with chili and crushed garlic were responsible, but may I plead in mitigation it is a great dish that went extremely well with the Husband and Wife mixed offal slices with chilli oil and peanuts, and the Szechuan Chicken (in which I counted over 30 roasted red chilis). Number 10 in Earls Court is a great (and reasonable) Sichuanese, don't go if you don't like chilli.

Some Glenlivet 15 year fine oak slipped down rather nicely, so I am feeling much more mellow.

Perhaps a glenmorangie 18 or 25 might have been required!

good night.. hope the 15 year old has put your mind to ease!
 
A similar thing happened to my wife some years back.

All I can say is don't plan any holidays and be prepared to sit in a court waiting room as the protagonists fight it out. First will be the Police case and then second will be the civil suit claiming compensation etc. It could run for years.

Needless to say my wife now prefers to read a book than observe motoring accidents.....
 
A similar thing happened to my wife some years back.

All I can say is don't plan any holidays and be prepared to sit in a court waiting room as the protagonists fight it out. First will be the Police case and then second will be the civil suit claiming compensation etc. It could run for years.

Needless to say my wife now prefers to read a book than observe motoring accidents.....

Let's hope the driver has a conscience and admits liablilty.
 
A similar thing happened to my wife some years back.

All I can say is don't plan any holidays and be prepared to sit in a court waiting room as the protagonists fight it out. First will be the Police case and then second will be the civil suit claiming compensation etc. It could run for years.

Needless to say my wife now prefers to read a book than observe motoring accidents.....

My sister was the victim of a similar thing by an uninsured driver. 5 years of hell and being passed from pillar to post by the nominated insurance company trying everything it could to avoid paying a penny. Some of that was unavoidable, as until the full prognosis after numerous operations became clear there was no way to determine the quantum of any claim for the injuries, but the insurers went out of their way to string it out. We could afford a decent lawyer and barrister, many others would have given up earlier.

One micro-seconds inattention and just years of suffering.
 
Let's hope the driver has a conscience and admits liablilty.

Why should the driver admit responsibility? We don't know the details of the event, but I do know that (as a biker myself) many motorcyclists "filter" way too fast. If you are filtering, you should be going slow enough to stop when the car pulls out into your path - it is inevitable that it will happen sooner or later. When you start filtering, you take personal responisiblity for the consequences - regardless of how the insurance is settled.
 
The guy was filtering at a reasonable speed, headlights on, and the person pulling out did so without any form of warning other than an indicator at the point of executing the turn. I could clearly see him in my mirror, and given the A class turned from stationary, the driver would have had plenty of notice not to do so if her mirrors had been used. All other judgements are best left to those more competent than me to decide.
 
The guy was filtering at a reasonable speed, headlights on, and the person pulling out did so without any form of warning other than an indicator at the point of executing the turn. I could clearly see him in my mirror, and given the A class turned from stationary, the driver would have had plenty of notice not to do so if her mirrors had been used. All other judgements are best left to those more competent than me to decide.

That's good - but I still maintain that you take your life in your hands (literally) when you filter past traffic on a motorbike and - regardless of how stupid or incompetent the driver who hits you is - you are partially responsible as a biker because you did something that every biker knows is an accident waiting to happen.

Whenever you have queues of traffic the first thing that a driver's mind turns to is diving down side streets, finding rat-runs and getting around the hold-up in whatever way possible; usually normal observation and awareness go right out the window when frustration sets in.

Drivers suddenly shooting out, doing U-turns, allowing cars in from the left - it is all to be expected so your speed should match the conditions. It sounds like in this case, the biker's speed was not. However, I am sure the insurance will come down in the biker's favour.
 
Many riders get caught in this way because the car driver is not expecting a bike to overtake the queue of cars, the rider should always be as far from the cars as possible i.e. on the 'wrong' side of the road where possible.
Hope the rider recovers okay....sounds like the car driver did not check before turning :doh:
 
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Too many drivers seem to think "mirror signal manoeuvre" is just some nice ditty, a little mantra instead of a worthwhile set of instructions where proceeding to each step depends on the previous. They're not simultaneous or optional..
 
Why should the driver admit responsibility? We don't know the details of the event, but I do know that (as a biker myself) many motorcyclists "filter" way too fast. If you are filtering, you should be going slow enough to stop when the car pulls out into your path - it is inevitable that it will happen sooner or later. When you start filtering, you take personal responisiblity for the consequences - regardless of how the insurance is settled.

I agree that many motorcyclists do filter way to fast, however, Charles has stated that this particular rider wasn't. It doesn't matter if you're doing 20 or 2mph when filtering - if someone pulls out in front of you without looking you're gonna hit them.

I had an experience on my R6 when i was hit by a car travelling from the 1st lane of a dual carriage-way into the 2nd in Croydon. It was early in the morning, built up and I was travelling at about 20mph, however, the car just pulled out - no indication, no looking, nothing. There was absolutely nothing i could have done to stop it. Luckily a witness stopped and the driver admitted responsibility there and then and said the same to their insurance company. The claim was dealt with in a matter of weeks.
 
That's good - but I still maintain that you take your life in your hands (literally) when you filter past traffic on a motorbike and - regardless of how stupid or incompetent the driver who hits you is - you are partially responsible as a biker because you did something that every biker knows is an accident waiting to happen.

Whenever you have queues of traffic the first thing that a driver's mind turns to is diving down side streets, finding rat-runs and getting around the hold-up in whatever way possible; usually normal observation and awareness go right out the window when frustration sets in.

Drivers suddenly shooting out, doing U-turns, allowing cars in from the left - it is all to be expected so your speed should match the conditions. It sounds like in this case, the biker's speed was not. However, I am sure the insurance will come down in the biker's favour.

It's in these circumstances that the driver should admit responsibility.
 
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