BBC article about fast estates

[prprandall51]

Kind of the same with the E350 CDI. Behind those big outlets are just the standard ovals (just cut off a bit early).

My old Mondeo TDCi used to have twin fat stainless pipes; but behind them, just the usual downward pointing standard pipes.

It happens on all cars - I was disappointed to find that the exhaust on the Lamborghini Murciélago is just a plain round pipe - and not even a very big one - behind that enormous, beautifully shaped exhaust port in the rear panel.
When you open the bonnet, the exhaust port goes up with it, leaving the rather sad pipe pointing out the back.

 

[This is Pete]

On a practical level, it's a lot easier to replace the cosmetic end of an exhaust tip if it's not actually attached to the exhaust system.

 

[prprandall51]

On a practical level, it's a lot easier to replace the cosmetic end of an exhaust tip if it's not actually attached to the exhaust system.

Agreed, but making the cosmetic end size times the size of the pipe that feeds it is a little disingenuous...

 

[Remenham]

Its childish I know but I do like the two big oval ones on the 211 Sport compared to the downward pointing ones on the 210. Downward pointing for diesels has disappeared as they become performance oriented.

 

[BTB 500]

Downward pointing for diesels has disappeared as they become performance oriented.

Or as they got DPFs ?

 

[Deleted member 37751]

Or as they got DPFs ?

My Sport doesn't have a DPF, it'd be good to know how many ticked that option though.

 

[Deleted member 37751]

Always a good idea [ given time] to count the number and bore of the exhausts of any car passing you suspect of being a "sleeper" ------ unfeasibly large bore chav-mobiles excepted of course.

You mean like this with SIX?



Z R Racing : E55 K AMG - BRABUS - 560 BHP - MEGA SPEC

 

[st4]

My Sport doesn't have a DPF, it'd be good to know how many ticked that option though.

I would guess few but the 642 engine meets EU4 regs and must pass and exceed this to have outward facing exhausts

 

[grober]

I used to work with Alex many years ago, I have to say the article really did not do him many favours but I can tell you he really is just an everyday bloke who just happens to like fast cars.

My apologies to Alex - perhaps it was a bit of cheap shot -- but if you allow yourself to be interviewed by a bloke from the BBC called Jorn Madslien you may come in for a bit of flak.

 

[219]

My 280TE was probably one of the quickest estate cars in its day , although tame by present day standards . It also made a good towcar .

The 300TE and 300TE-24 which followed it were both pretty good as well .

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

My 280TE was probably one of the quickest estate cars in its day , although tame by present day standards . It also made a good towcar .

The 300TE and 300TE-24 which followed it were both pretty good as well .

Derek, which year was that? A very impressive outfit.

 

[nick mercedes]

Don't forget that the £90,000 RS6 is worth less than half that (if he's lucky) and the RS2 came out in 1994, not 'around the turn of the century'.

It may well be a PCP hire car or on a cheap (tax deductable) business lease backed by one of the state owned banks...

 

[219]

Derek, which year was that? A very impressive outfit.

Hmmm , probably circa 1990 ?

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Hmmm , probably circa 1990 ?

Must have turned heads on site!

 

[tali]

Another good example of sh*te journalism. i think they will find the Lamborghini has an Audi Engine and not the Audi has a Lamborghini engine as stated, T*ssers

I bet this is what customers are told at the dealers though. Never let marketing BS stand in the way of facts.

With component sharing so common place I'm sure some parts on Lamborghini are also found on Skodas. I'm sure Skoda owners are proud of that, Lambo owners less so.

Even car mags (who should know better)are at it -"Lamborghini derived"
Lambo V10 For New RS6 | evo News | News | evo
Audi RS6 Avant estate (2008 - ) first drive - Auto Trader UK
Audi RS6 Avant | Car Group Tests | Car Reviews | Auto Express

 

[nick mercedes]

Another good example of sh*te journalism. i think they will find the Lamborghini has an Audi Engine and not the Audi has a Lamborghini engine as stated, T*ssers

This one?

Lamborghini V10 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[oldcro]

Another good example of sh*te journalism. i think they will find the Lamborghini has an Audi Engine and not the Audi has a Lamborghini engine as stated, T*ssers

But surely if the actual engine used came out of a Lamborghini then saying it had a Lamborghini engine is correct.

 

[wemorgan]

Even car mags (who should know better)are at it -"Lamborghini derived"
Lambo V10 For New RS6 | evo News | News | evo
Audi RS6 Avant estate (2008 - ) first drive - Auto Trader UK
Audi RS6 Avant | Car Group Tests | Car Reviews | Auto Express

Maybe you're right. Though it's not uncommon for journalist to repeat what they're told at the press launch.

Also whenever a car is well regarded it's technology always derives from a more superior marque, but when cars are slated it's because it's based on an inferior marque. Genealogy in cars more difficult than it once was.

 

[John]

But surely if the actual engine used came out of a Lamborghini then saying it had a Lamborghini engine is correct.

I guess it is where the engine in question first appeared.

So if that engine in the Audi appeared in a Lamborghini first, then I would argue it is a Lamborghini engine.

 

[BTB 500]

This engine is related to the naturally aspirated V10 found in the Audi R8, Audi S6, Audi S8, and Lamborghini Gallardo, however the RS6's engine has around 400 unique parts.

Obviously you can't believe everything you read in Wikipedia, but does sound like an Audi engine to me.

Audi RS 6 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And it seems the 'Lamborghini V10' in the Gallardo was developed by Audi anyway:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini_V10