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BIGGER DIA & WIDER WHEEL'S FOR 220CE,??

thanks,, after looking at wheels all day on ebay,, i've decided that style is what i want,, now all i have to do is find some,, what do you mean "tramline",, as in car follows contour of the road,,
 
not only the contours but more alarmingly the white lines and any imperfections in the road surface.

These wheels do turn up fairly often - I think they are a really great looking wheel particularly on the W124 but they are awkward to clean.

Make sure any that are advertised have that part number or they could well be a slightly different wheel. As far as I know they were a R129 wheel and never offered as an option on the W124.

Cost? well, I've seen them sell for as little as £40 a set up to a maximum of about £200

Andy
 
I agree with Andy about the tramlining , can be a little disconcerting at times, i find mine likes to 'grab' at the indentations the lorry tyres have left on the inside lane of the motorway.
 
andy_k said:
yes they are 8J 16s, on the rear the tyres are 225/50/16 on the front they are 205/55/16s.

After much messing around with various tyre sizes I decided that was the set up I liked the best, 225s on the front didn't feel quite right and occasionally the car would tramline.

Other's I've spoken to have said the same but then again don't seem unduly stressed by it :)

HTH

Andy

I run 225/55/16's on my 260E. ET of 38. Close fit to the suspention though. Never been worried about tramlining, cant honestly say that it has caused me to worry. The ride is nice and I have very good grip all round.
 
nice wheels :)

I prefer 205/50/16s on the front, I really think they look nicer and more importantly drive better. 225/50/16s are perfect on the back.

How much did you pay for the wheels?

Andy
 
that's not a bad price for a set of wheels - get them cleaned up and they'll really look good on your car.

As for tyres, everyone will offer differing opinions but bear in mind that with 225 tyres on a W124 grip is the last thing you'll be worrying about, unless you are really trying they won't let go and wheelspin with the 220 engine won't be too much of a problem.

Andy
 
grip as in wet weather grip,, the back end broke loose on me yesterday turning right at a junction,, did'nt think i was giving it too much right foot,, it was raining at the time,, i think the 220 is quite pokey myself,, well enough for me anyway,,

tyre's,,,, been reading through some old post's and NANKANG NS2 tyre's seem to well thought of,,??
 
wheels arrived this morning,, only ordered them yesterday,, good service,, they're in better nick than the pic showed,, well pleased,, just need to decide on what tyre's to put on them,,
 
Well done on the R129 wheels. They’ll look great on the W124 since they are the same pattern. For tyres I use Kalken FK451 and I’m very pleased with them. I did have Nankang NS-1 but they used to slide all over the place in the wet. Maybe the NS-2 is better?

Lowering your car…..

First and most important step.
Make sure all the suspension bushes are in good condition. There is no point adding sports suspension to a car that has knackered bushes. In particular check the rear suspension links for wear. Check the rear subframe bushes visually and the front lower control arm bushes. If either have seen better days replace with Sportline bushes. It’s too much hassle changing them if they’re not faulty. The difference is minute anyway. Check for broken rear anti-roll bar links. Check that there are no cracks in the front strut mounts.

Spring pads.
These little chaps are rubber pads that sit on the top of the spring and cushion the springs from the chassis. They are available in different thicknesses (4 front & 3 rear). If your car has the thickest pads, changing to the thinnest will lower the car by about an inch without sacrificing comfort. The different thickness pads are identified by the number of bumps (4 is the thickest, 1 is the thinnest). You can easily see these bumps if you peer underneath.

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Springs.
Having tried original, Sportline, H&R and Ventura springs I can say my choice would have to be MB Sportlines.
There are several reasons. The Ventura springs sold by Eurocarparts are very firm and the ones they sold me for my coupe where actually designed for a saloon and where way too low on the front. The H&R springs were expensive and are actually quite soft. My choice would be Sportline springs (if these are available for the 220, not sure about that). Mercedes spent millions developing the suspension and if it’s good enough for the E36, it’s good enough for yours. By fitting genuine Sportline parts your insurance company will not know they’re non standard. (don’t sue me if you get caught out!). Sportline springs lower the car slightly but not so much that you’ll get problems with alignment. MB dealers will align cars with Sportline suspension but will probably refuse if you use aftermarket springs. The problem with buying Sportline springs is that there are several types depending on type and spec of your car (again, if the Sportline springs are available for the 220). Don’t expect MB dealer parts staff to help you! Maybe a good way around this would be to find someone with a similar car but with factory Sportline suspension and use their chassis number to order them? Genuine MB springs are about the same price as aftermarket parts.

Removing the front springs is a pain! If you’re thinking of using this type of spring compressor, don’t! You will find it almost impossible due to the lack of space.
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You need to use a special spring compressor like this one http://www.etoolcart.com/browseproducts/Telescoping-Compressor-M-0070.HTML
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The best bet is to try to hire one.

Shocks.
Bilstein Heavy duty (black) would be an ideal match for Sportline springs. If you want to save a few bob you could go for the Bilstein Sports (yellow) that are sold on e-bay for about £60 a set (speak to Howard). They have the same damping as HDs but are designed for lowered cars. They should still be fine with Sportline springs.

Alignment.
After fitting new springs and shocks you’ll need a four wheel alignment done. MB dealers are the best bet for this job. Cost is about £200. It may be possible to get it done at a garage that has a computerised four wheel alignment rig but this is definitely not a job for quick-fit!
There is a different alignment spec for Sportline cars. Make sure the garage knows this and uses the right spec.
The front of the W124 has limited adjustment and the rear is not adjustable at all for camber. If you lower the car too much (eg. by using cheap springs) the alignment will never be done right. There are ways of adjusting the rear camber using aftermarket kits but I wouldn’t recommend it.

Anti roll bars.
It’s worth changing the front and rear anti roll bars for Sportline ones to keep the car flatter in the corners. The front is easy to fit, the rear almost impossible without a proper ramp. If you have to change the rear subframe bushes this would be a good time to add Sportline anti roll bars.

If you need any part numbers, or anything else, just ask.
 
Janner,

do you have the sportline anti roll bar part numbers (front and rear) please ? also an idea of price......

got mine going in to fit the new shocks early december, so might be an idea to change the bars....

cheers

H
 
Sure,
You will need:
front bar 124 323 68 65 (qty 1) £70
front inner bush 124 323 45 85 (qty 2) £5 each
front outer bush 124 323 51 85 (qty 2) £5 each
rear bar 124 326 19 65 (qty 1) £60
rear bush 124 326 01 81 (qty 2) £2 each


Prices based on what I paid in 2003 from MB.
 
went to the mb dealers today,, to price up the sportline suspension upgrade i want to do ,, the parts man was very helpfull ,, ( thanks for the part No's janner ), not at all what i'd been expecting,, going by a lot of post's on here,, price's are about the same as janner's price's from a few year's ago,, the only price that made me wince was for the front shock's £ 120.00 each,, think i'll get bilstein yellow,, not mb's,, he asked me a question that made me laugh,, i'm asking about spring's etc,, and he wanted to know if i had a sunroof,, seem's that mb have taken every bit of weight difference into account,, even down to the few pound's the sunroof motor weigh's,, most impressed,, total cost should be around £500.00 for the part's,, i'll do the fitting myself,,
 

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