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camerafodder said:
Well at the end of the day that is a personal choice. If you defend yourself against a burglar and hurt them then you'll be in court anyway. The salient point is that the court now properly considers the heat of the moment rather than a paper shuffling exercise 6 months after the event. Police are never going to attend such a situation in good time because in almost every case they will be too late so every situation will have extenuating circumstances.

At the very least if you could disable an intruder with pepper spray that would give the police time to arrive and deal with the perpetrator?
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If you go at them with a firearm, it's a court appearance without question. However, thanks to the increased consideration you mention, using the poker that sits by the fire/impromptu sporting equipment/large pair of stilsons you left by the radiator after doing the plumbing, it may never get that far.

Recourse to disable/incapacitate without permanent harm (such as your example of pepper spray) seems eminently reasonable to me. As does Trunk Monkey :D
 
Doodle said:
If you go at them with a firearm, it's a court appearance without question. However, thanks to the increased consideration you mention, using the poker that sits by the fire/impromptu sporting equipment/large pair of stilsons you left by the radiator after doing the plumbing, it may never get that far.

Recourse to disable/incapacitate without permanent harm (such as your example of pepper spray) seems eminently reasonable to me. As does Trunk Monkey :D
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Trunk monkey has the edge for me! :D
 
Not sure how the law in UK fits with this but....

Trawl you Tube for US Army Salt Gun. Its a pistol that used compressed air cartridges to fire pepper spray pellets.
 
trapperjohn said:
Not sure how the law in UK fits with this but....

Trawl you Tube for US Army Salt Gun. Its a pistol that used compressed air cartridges to fire pepper spray pellets.
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Great minds think alike mate see my earlier posts and link, awesome bit of kit but Illegal in UK under section 5 firearms act
 
del320 said:
Commiserations, John on the frightening experience. There is some significance in the four month period.

I have been burgled four times in my life. The second and fourth events were within four months of the first and third - time enough, as the police pointed out, to complete the insurance claim and replace the stolen items.
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So I have 3 months to prepare!... I have a cellar which could soon be filled with foamed concrete... who would know :devil:

But seriously they only came for the car keys... that's what they were shouting as they came thro the patio door.

I have suddenly become interested in joining a local baseball club / archery club and clay pigeon shooting club.... strange that ;)
 
Worth mentioning John if you liked Quattro and the Perfprmance my 335d with xdrive has been very impressive.

0-60 in under 5 seconds. Mid range torque is ridiculous. The technology fitted is great though I have rocked every option bar glass sunroof and more importantly today I went to Leighton buzzard and back and a bit of round town. 260 miles total. Used a quarter of a tank diesel. I'm getting roughly 45-55mpg on motorway. Sat at 70mph it easily returns 55mpg+.

Worth a drive as the 8 speed box is the best I've had before.
 
StuartK said:
Worth mentioning John if you liked Quattro and the Perfprmance my 335d with xdrive has been very impressive.

0-60 in under 5 seconds. Mid range torque is ridiculous. The technology fitted is great though I have rocked every option bar glass sunroof and more importantly today I went to Leighton buzzard and back and a bit of round town. 260 miles total. Used a quarter of a tank diesel. I'm getting roughly 45-55mpg on motorway. Sat at 70mph it easily returns 55mpg+.

Worth a drive as the 8 speed box is the best I've had before.
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Cheers Stuart, I'm testing a C300h on Saturday and was thinking possibly C350e but have no fixed plan on next car... as long as 335d xdrive is not high on criminals must have list will have a look :thumb:
 
JohnEclass said:
Cheers Stuart, I'm testing a C300h on Saturday and was thinking possibly C350e but have no fixed plan on next car... as long as 335d xdrive is not high on criminals must have list will have a look :thumb:
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"Touchwood" I have no problems at all and I park all over. I have it in black which is discreet.

Debadged you wouldn't tell it from a 320d bar the brakes. If you are after a deal a friend works at Rybrook BMW.

I had a sizeable chunk off list price. I basically got all the options free plus a bit more.
 
StuartK said:
"Touchwood" I have no problems at all and I park all over. I have it in black which is discreet.

Debadged you wouldn't tell it from a 320d bar the brakes. If you are after a deal a friend works at Rybrook BMW.

I had a sizeable chunk off list price. I basically got all the options free plus a bit more.
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Now that may well be of interest :thumb:
 
StuartK said:
"Touchwood" I have no problems at all and I park all over. I have it in black which is discreet.

Debadged you wouldn't tell it from a 320d bar the brakes. If you are after a deal a friend works at Rybrook BMW.

I had a sizeable chunk off list price. I basically got all the options free plus a bit more.
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Stu, stop trying to poach members over to the dark side! Remember where you are my friend. You are being watched, you have been warned!!! :devil:
 
flango said:
What about the pepper spray they sell on university campus shops and the like as anti rape devices they are openly sold. I thought it was only military/police strength like MACE that contains a noxious gas that was firearms classified? If it doesn't turn into a gas or is a gel then its perfectly legal lots of adverts for such and openly sold as above.

Just read section 5 and you quite right the link would be illegal but under section 5 would the below be? is a water pistol a weapon?

Failing that dilute acid or sodium hypochloride solution in a water pistol will debilitate any attacker long enough for you to take action.
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One perfectly legal thing to have around the house is a fire extinguisher - certain types discharged in the face of an attacker will disable or disorientate them for a few moments , as well as creating a cloud of vapour to cover your family's escape , and the thing itself could be used as a defensive weapon in an emergency ( I wouldn't like to be hit over the head with one) .
 
StuartK said:
I wish MB would do a C350 CDI V6 in the new coupe :)
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You and me both!... I almost wish I had kept the E320 CDI, but have had the Audi Quattro now so itch has been scratched, even if it only lasted 6 months.
Was planning a trip to the Nurburgring, but thats off the cards now.
 
I was just doing a bit of upholstery DIY and using my pneumatic staple gun , connected to my air compressor ..... something made me think of this thread :devil:
 
Hi,
A jar of chili powder or black pepper in the face would be pretty effective.
You could keep a few jars secreted around the house for "emergency" use.
Cheers
Steve
 
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