Deane x
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Also being a Mercedes towbar it should be detachable so you will not smash your legs on it when not useing it
Also being a Mercedes towbar it should be detachable so you will not smash your legs on it when not useing it
Deane x
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I think the first allocation has been uesed up and that's why my car went up by £90 a month ..where is JBD when you need him lol
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At 155 mph your HUD will not help
Oddly perhaps the options I am really looking forward to is the panoramic roof and air suspension.
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I doubt that the 50,000 number has been reached yet. Out of interest are you NHS buyers completing the OLEV claim, as I have done, I in order to have the grant allocated ?
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Well it first started in 2011 ...and new rules started in April 2015 Since the plug-in car grant scheme began in 2011, over 25,000 claims have been made and there are now a wide range of vehicles eligible for the grant. In April 2013, we committed to retain the £5,000 grant until 50,000 claims had been made.
£200 million has been made available to continue the plug-in car grant from 2015 to 2020. We are keen to ensure that the funding is effectively targeted towards supporting the ultra low emission vehicle (ULEV) market. The technology in the vehicles, and number of models available, has developed considerably since the technical requirements for the scheme were set, almost 5 years ago.
From 1 April 2015, we will therefore be introducing 3 grant categories for cars, differentiating between ULEVs on the basis of their CO2 emissions and their zero emission range, whilst retaining a technology neutral approach:
Category 1: CO2 emissions of less than 50g/km and a zero emission range of at least 70 miles
Category 2: CO2 emissions of less than 50g/km and a zero emission range between 10 and 69 miles
Category 3: CO2 emissions of 50-75g/km and a zero emission range of at least 20 miles
Yes it is.. and its pretty cool how its stored too!
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Yes I know there clever , my friend had a towbar fitting and trailer making company and had contracts with most of the big car show rooms . Merc and BMW where always clever
This is a good site for the data stats.
Electric vehicle market statistics 2015 - How many electric cars in UK ?
& then -
July 2015 - EV registrations - SMMT
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All true but the numbers below published by the SMMT should cause intending buyers not to dally because the 50,000 will not last long at this rate. Since the figures below were published the sales of ULEV may well have grown at a much faster pace
SMMT NEW CAR REGISTRATIONS
4 June 2015 (data for May 2015)
New car registrations up 2.4% in May to 198,706 units, marking 39th consecutive month of growth.
Demand for ultra-low emission vehicles* up four-fold, exceeding 10,000 in 2015, compared with 2,838 in 2014.
Overall registrations reach 1,119,072 in 2015, up 5.7% as market stabilises.
Thursday 4 June 2015 Figures released today by the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) show a steady 2.4% growth in the UK new car market, accompanied by a strong surge in demand for ultra-low emission vehicles (ULEVs).
11,842 ULEVs were registered between January and May – a four-fold rise on the 2,838 registrations in the same period last year. The growth is further evidence of UK car buyers’ increasing awareness of the significant benefits of driving a ULEV, as they look to reduce their running costs and environmental impact. Motorists can now choose from a diverse range of around 20 ULEVs, compared to just six in 2011.
The rise in overall new car registrations, meanwhile, marks the 39th consecutive month of growth in the market. More than one million cars have been registered in 2015 as a range of new products and attractive finance deals with low interest rates continue to draw buyers to showrooms. With many purchases on a three-year replacement cycle, new cars bought as the recession ended are now being replaced.
Mike Hawes, SMMT Chief Executive, said, "The remarkable growth in demand for plug-in vehicles is expected to continue as the range of ultra-low emission vehicles on sale increases. Meanwhile, we anticipate a natural levelling out of the overall new car market throughout the remainder of 2015.”
Alternatively-fuelled vehicle (AFV) registrations – January-May Ultra-low emission vehicles
At 155 mph your HUD will not help
Oddly perhaps the options I am really looking forward to is the panoramic roof and air suspension.
Nothing will help at 155mph
though it should help around towns differentiating between 30/40mph limits when they are changed by the powers that be and your shat nav didn't tell you..
don't ask how I know this...twice.. in 5 minutes, over it now.
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Nothing will help at 155mph
though it should help around towns differentiating between 30/40mph limits when they are changed by the powers that be and your shat nav didn't tell you..
don't ask how I know this...twice.. in 5 minutes, over it now.
This is my solution at present. I will investigate the possibility of hard wiring it in when I eventually get the 350e.
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Think Brilliant Blue is also available on any estate as well, seen one in the flesh so to speak and it looked lovely.
Defo a good choice.
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18" alloys on the saloon don't push the CO2's up. You're fine.
At the moment, it's moot anyway. You CAN order an estate with 18" alloys (ie Premium Pack) and get the grant.
Provided it's logged on the OLEV portal before the 50,000 vehicle limit has been reached AND it's delivered within 9 months of order.
Go back a few pages, you'll see a post of mine with an extract of an email FROM OLEV themselves, confirming the 9 month order to delivery requirement. As I say, I asked OLEV to confirm this, that was their response at the time. That is factual, and I don't and wouldn't trust anything anyone else says or appears to know, until it was confirmed by OLEV!
Once the 50,000 cars/£200m is done, then it's all set to change. To what, they haven't said. No one knows. You could get £5k grant, could get nothing, anything said is conjecture!
Looking at the bandings they've created (but don't mean anything at the moment, all qualifying vehicles get upto £5k)- you can easily draw your own conclusions how it might change at the next tranche of funds. Being a government department keen to get UK CO2 emissions down however, it's quite likely it could all change...
At the moment, it's moot anyway. You CAN order an estate with 18" alloys (ie Premium Pack) and get the grant.
Provided it's logged on the OLEV portal before the 50,000 vehicle limit has been reached AND it's delivered within 9 months of order.
Go back a few pages, you'll see a post of mine with an extract of an email FROM OLEV themselves, confirming the 9 month order to delivery requirement. As I say, I asked OLEV to confirm this, that was their response at the time. That is factual, and I don't and wouldn't trust anything anyone else says or appears to know, until it was confirmed by OLEV!
Once the 50,000 cars/£200m is done, then it's all set to change. To what, they haven't said. No one knows. You could get £5k grant, could get nothing, anything said is conjecture!
Looking at the bandings they've created (but don't mean anything at the moment, all qualifying vehicles get upto £5k)- you can easily draw your own conclusions how it might change at the next tranche of funds. Being a government department keen to get UK CO2 emissions down however, it's quite likely it could all change...
Based on the documentation...
18 inch wheels on the Estate or Saloon push the CO2 up to above 50.
Saloon goes from 48co2 to 52co2 (page 73)
Estate goes from 49 to 53 (page 78)
http://tools.mercedes-benz.co.uk/cu...n-estate.pdf?pid=c-class-saloon_hp_cta_ebroch
The key diff between the Saloon and Estate is that the 18's are not a requirement on the Saloon in conjunction with a towbar or pano roof.
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I also think your wrong about the 18" wheels plus JBD said its not 9 months now it's 12 months , I have a wait of 10 months and I don't think NHS fleet would get it wrong and you can't say don't trust what anyone else says ! The new terms from April 2015 not when the 50,000 run out 5. Changes to the plug-in car grant from April 2015
Since the plug-in car grant scheme began in 2011, over 25,000 claims have been made and there are now a wide range of vehicles eligible for the grant. In April 2013, we committed to retain the £5,000 grant until 50,000 claims had been made.
£200 million has been made available to continue the plug-in car grant from 2015 to 2020. We are keen to ensure that the funding is effectively targeted towards supporting the ultra low emission vehicle (ULEV) market. The technology in the vehicles, and number of models available, has developed considerably since the technical requirements for the scheme were set, almost 5 years ago.
From 1 April 2015, we will therefore be introducing 3 grant categories for cars, differentiating between ULEVs on the basis of their CO2 emissions and their zero emission range, whilst retaining a technology neutral approach:
Category 1: CO2 emissions of less than 50g/km and a zero emission range of at least 70 miles
Category 2: CO2 emissions of less than 50g/km and a zero emission range between 10 and 69 miles
Category 3: CO2 emissions of 50-75g/km and a zero emission range of at least 20 miles. It's all here in black and white https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/plug-in-car-grant/plug-in-car-grant-vehicles
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Based on the documentation...
18 inch wheels on the Estate or Saloon push the CO2 up to above 50.
Saloon goes from 48co2 to 52co2 (page 73)
Estate goes from 49 to 53 (page 78)
http://tools.mercedes-benz.co.uk/cu...n-estate.pdf?pid=c-class-saloon_hp_cta_ebroch
The key diff between the Saloon and Estate is that the 18's are not a requirement on the Saloon in conjunction with a towbar or pano roof.
Exactly this. I had originally ordered the 18's on my saloon because both the leasing website and Merc one didn't take into consideration the increase in CO2 from having the larger wheels.
Things were then updated and I also read on here tips from people. They were chatting about the estate specifically (Because it is a requirement if you go for Prem+) but it made me look into it more.
If you add the 18's, for whatever reason, your CO2 will go up, into the next tax bracket and it's that cost you have to consider. It worked out at an extra £2,500 in BIK tax over the course of the lease + the cost of the upgrade.
Essentially, £3,000 for 18's instead of 17's. Just not worth it in my opinion.
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I think your reading of the rules is entirely correct. It was plain to me at the time of ordering that if the model selected breached the 50 CO2 emissions ceiling as a result of either wheels or model the grant would be jeopardised. Nothing in that respect has changed. As for the NHS getting it right I am sure they have but I wonder if the cost figure reflects the loss of grant ?
As for dealer knowledge I can tell you that mine were not aware at the time of purchase if the grant would apply at all although the information was at that time, April of this year clearly set out on the OLEV site.
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Apologies on the wheels, I stand corrected! A mod is welcome to edit it out for clarity.
52g/km for 18" on the saloon per the brochure.
Doh!
As mentioned above it's the extra weight of pan roof/towbar that you can have on the saloon without changing the wheels to 18"s.
Do stand by the grant situation though. As I said, I asked OLEV directly, and got a written response confirming it's 9 months. That's not to say, the grant when it's exhausted won't necessarily stay the same, or, that they extend it to 12 months perhaps. Anyone else wondering or worried would be advised to get in touch with OLEV directly, hear it from the horses mouth.
52g/km for 18" on the saloon per the brochure.
Doh!
As mentioned above it's the extra weight of pan roof/towbar that you can have on the saloon without changing the wheels to 18"s.
Do stand by the grant situation though. As I said, I asked OLEV directly, and got a written response confirming it's 9 months. That's not to say, the grant when it's exhausted won't necessarily stay the same, or, that they extend it to 12 months perhaps. Anyone else wondering or worried would be advised to get in touch with OLEV directly, hear it from the horses mouth.
