Car impounded by dvla.... After scrapping!!

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  1. jay1983

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    Bit of advise needed guys. I scrapped a car recently with a well known scrap company in Manchester. Today I received a letter from the dvla stating they have impounded the car from an area nowhere near the scrap merchants.
    I went with the company as they are well known and are an authorised treatment facility (ATF).
    I signed the v5 and kept the yellow part which I sent to the dvla.
    I have got pics of the car on the recovery truck bein taken away.

    Where do I stand?
     
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    They should have given you a receipt. Just tell the DVLA it was scrapped and who by.
     
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    I sold it to them on the 9th and sent the section of v5 off a couple of days later. The letter I received is dated the 22nd. Could it be possible the dvla haven't updated their records?

    Now I'm worried about things like speeding tickets etc
     
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    What have the DVLA said?

    Please don't tell us you haven't contacted them before posting on here...
     
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    Did they give you a certificate of destruction? they should of.

    Is someone using your old plates?
     
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    I only got the letter after I finished work today. So dvla and scrap place closed. And with it being bank holiday I don't want to be worrying about it.

    The driver said the certificate would be posted once the car was destroyed.
     
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    So don't worry.

    What can we do?
     
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    I was hoping with the wealth and knowledge and experience on here someone might have been in a similar situation or know where I would stand legally
     
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    Do you own the car?
    Do you have possession of the car?
    Were you driving the car?
    Did you sell it to a registered scrapper?
    Did you send in the paperwork?

    If you can answer yes to three or more of the above, you're in deep...
     
  10. Mr. B

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    Chill - don't worry.

    It would appear that your car wasn't scrapped.

    Someone has used it and DVLA have found it not taxed and seized it.

    Not a problem because you sold it to the scrap company.

    As long as you have all the papers to prove the sale not a problem.
     
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    What Mr B says .

    While DVLA do seem to have something of a reputation for either failing to receive or losing documents posted to them , as long as you can show that you sold the car to the breaker , and you tried to notify them , you are in the clear .

    Either a receipt from the breaker , or proof of payment from them to you would suffice . Your photograph of your car going away on the back of their truck might also be useful .

    Breakers sometimes sell complete cars onto people as runarounds or restoration projects ( I have bought a few cars this way myself ) so they are not always scrapped . While there is nothing particularly wrong with the breaker selling on the complete car , if it has not been long since the new keeper acquired the car , the change of keeper may not have gone through yet ; it would appear the new keeper has left the car somewhere he ought not to have .

    Just reply to the letter telling them when and to whom you sold it , include photocopies of any paperwork you have , but keep the originals - that should be the end of the matter for you .
     
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    Tricky.
    You declared it scrapped but didn't attend to this yourself.
    You used a third party and have no documentary evidence from the scrapyard?

    Really this is no different to giving it to some bloke in the pub who says he'll break it.
    Probably best to involve the police. Tell them the story and the vehicle was used without your permission.
    Get a record and this will help your case as you may find them chasing you soon...
     
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    So, everyone else is saying chill, get it sorted on Tuesday...and you think...hanging is too good for the OP.

    OP...chill, we don't know, a quick phone call with the evidence will sort it.
     
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    What Renault says.

    You have a picture of the car on the recovery truck and have sent the yellow part to DVLA. That yellow part will have got to DVLA and will turn up.

    The breaker will have some explaining to do to the Feds once you show them the picture.
     
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    I don't read it that he declared it scrapped : he sent notification that he had sold the vehicle to a dismantler , which is not the same thing .

    The guidance notes on the V5 advise that you should only declare the vehicle scrapped if you have actually broken it up yourself ; otherwise you have just transferred it .

    The dismantler will have done nothing wrong in selling it on complete , unless he had already issued a certificate of destruction , and as long as he has notified DVLA of the new keeper ( which he can do with the V5 he got from the OP ) .

    The only wrongdoing was by the new keeper in leaving it somewhere it ought to have been street legal .
     
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    Two years ago, I bought a car that had been declared scrapped. The seller "forgot" to mention that small fact.

    Once DVLA were satisfied it was the same car they issued a V5.

    As said, the failing is the new owner.
     
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