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Correct tyre pressures

I think I read somewhere that you could use an IR temp gauge on your tyres to find the optimum inflation pressure. Basically you measure the centre and edge temperatures after a run, and aim to get them all the same. If the centre temp[ is too high then you need to drop the pressure and vice versa. But maybe I was dreaming?
 
I think I read somewhere that you could use an IR temp gauge on your tyres to find the optimum inflation pressure. Basically you measure the centre and edge temperatures after a run, and aim to get them all the same. If the centre temp[ is too high then you need to drop the pressure and vice versa. But maybe I was dreaming?

That was really for checking the tracking, but after a good run the tyre temperature should increase by 4c.

To the O/p, I think the pressures you have chosen are a bit high and will wear the centres of the tread, especially on the rear.

Just run at the standard pressures for the number of occupants and luggage, unless you intend to drive very fast at all times.
 
I would call continued high speed 100mph+, not 70mph.

Drop each tyre 2-3psi imho.
 
OK gIzzE, I'm not going to say I'm doing a ton from where I live every day but if anyone does 70-mph on the M1 where I live they get dirty looks from all the guys flashing past and some want to stop to help you. I will drop that psi in the morning and see how she feels, thanks.

Al.
 
OK gIzzE, I'm not going to say I'm doing a ton from where I live every day but if anyone does 70-mph on the M1 where I live they get dirty looks from all the guys flashing past and some want to stop to help you. I will drop that psi in the morning and see how she feels, thanks.

Al.

Weird that, I've driven near that section twice today and was struggling to maintain 70mph on cruise.
 
First up, I have a confession. :o I've had my car for 8 months and I didn't check the tyre pressures until today. My feeble excuse is that I assumed (foolishly I know) that the dealer would have set the pressures correctly during PDI, and that the tyre pressure monitor was keeping an eye on them.

They were between 33 and 34psi front and rear. The fuel filler flap says 35 front and rear when partially laden, and 38 front, 45 rear when fully laden. So they were a little lower than the partially laden recommended figure, but not too bad. Reading the manual (please don't let any other men know I've done that!) tells me that the tyre monitor only warns of "a significant loss of pressure", whatever that might be. But clearly not a pound or two. So lesson 1 learnt is not to rely on the tyre pressure monitor to keep pressures at their best.

But what is best? With partially and fully laden pressures for the rear tyres given as 35 and 45psi respectively, that's a massive difference (28%!). I can go from one extreme of loading to the other a few times a week. Do I really have to reset the pressures for every trip? Of course that would be inpractical.

I've found a tool on the web that gives an idea of the effect of incorrect pressures - Tyre Inflation - Mercedes-Benz Tyres | Inchcape Mercedes-Benz Inputting the 28% difference that I referred to above told me that this would lead to a 2% increase in fuel consuption and a 16.8% decrease in tyre life if I set the pressures to the upper limit and left them there. Conversely, if the upper limit was the correct value and I set the pressures to the lower limit (22% down), fuel consumption would rise by 3.5% and life reduce by 32.5% - even worse.

So, I've decided that what's best for me is to go for something inbetween but heading for the higher values. I've gone for 37psi front and 40psi rear.

A little more reading of the manual (:crazy:) tells me that this is OK, or does it?:
The tyre pressure values given for low loads are minimum values which offer you good ride comfort characteristics. However, you can also use the values given for higher loads. These are permissible and will not adversely affect the running of the vehicle.
The values on the tyre pressure information label (fuel filler flap) for the vehicle in "partially laden" and "fully laden" conditions apply when driving at maximum speed. Despite the values stated on the tyre pressure information label, for the vehicle with "partially laden up to 210 km/h" status, the values can be reduced as follows, without a reduction in safety:

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    30 kPa (
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    0.3 bar/
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    4 psi) for all models

This does not apply to vehicles towing a trailer.
This improves the ride comfort of your vehicle; however, the fuel consumption may increase slightly.
I think that's saying that pressures between the two limits are safe, and you can even safely drop 4psi below the bottom figure as long as you don't exceed 210kph.


It's sort of making sense.
 
That guide is pretty inaccurate IMHO. Certainly in one respect-- increasing tyre pressure slightly from standard normally leads to decreased rolling resistance and a decrease in fuel consumption which is at odds with what that calculator says. Guess it depends what you regard as standard. More manufacturers appear to to be increasing their recommended tyre pressure settings to the detriment of tyre wear and ride comfort to help their emissions figures rather than anything else?? http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/wheels-tyres/134862-tyre-pressure-mystery-deepens.html
 
That guide is pretty inaccurate IMHO. Certainly in one respect-- increasing tyre pressure slightly from standard normally leads to decreased rolling resistance and a decrease in fuel consumption which is at odds with what that calculator says. Guess it depends what you regard as standard. More manufacturers appear to to be increasing their recommended tyre pressure settings to the detriment of tyre wear and ride comfort to help their emissions figures rather than anything else?? http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/wheels-tyres/134862-tyre-pressure-mystery-deepens.html
Thanks for the link - an interesting discussion. I've now come to the conclusion that there's no definitive answer :confused:
 
There seems to be some confusion on the effect on fuel consumption and pressures here.

The higher the pressure the harder the tyre and thus the easier it is for the car to maintain momentum so this decreases fuel consumption giving a better MPG figure.

Obviously over inflating will have an adverse effect handling and increase tyre wear in the centre.

Manufacturers pressures should be adhered to but there is a general consensus in the garage trade that if manufacturers pressures are unknown at the time of inflation or checking then an all round 35 psi is a 'safe bet' till you do know.
 

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