Daimler to cut 10,000 jobs

[Stratman]

Mercedes-Benz owner Daimler to cut 10,000 jobs worldwide

Daimler, the German carmaker that owns Mercedes-Benz, has said it will shed at least 10,000 jobs worldwide as it seeks to fund the switch to electric cars.

Daimler personnel chief Wilfried Porth told journalists the number of jobs lost would be "in the five figures".

The move comes days after rival Audi said it would cut 9,500 of its 61,000 jobs in Germany for similar reasons.

Daimler said the car industry was going through "the biggest transformation in its history".

"The development towards CO2-neutral mobility requires large investments, which is why Daimler announced in the middle of November that it would launch a programme to increase competitiveness, innovation and investment strength," the firm said.

"Part of this programme is to reduce staff costs by around €1.4bn by the end of 2022 and, among other things, to reduce the number of management positions worldwide by 10%."

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[Steveml63]

It seems that the move to EVs is giving car manufacturers a great excuse to cut jobs!
Probably difficult for the unions to argue against this - as it’s a new era in car manufacturing.

 

[markjay]

It seems that the move to EVs is giving car manufacturers a great excuse to cut jobs!
Probably difficult for the unions to argue against this - as it’s a new era in car manufacturing.

Yes, but this depends on who are the 17 countries.... strong Workers Unions are mainly a West-European thing, in most other countries around the world they wouldn't need an excuse to cut jobs.

 

[John]

I'd read before that the number of jobs they were cutting and the resulting savings were almost identical to the size of the fine they got in the US for the emissions scandal.

 

[markjay]

What 'Dieselgate' demonstrated is that the ever-increasing emissions reduction requirements from ICE manufacturers are simply unrealistic.... the move to EVs is unavoidable for car manufacturers be cause the EU and US current and future emissions requirements just can be practically met.

 

[Bellow]

What 'Dieselgate' demonstrated is that the ever-increasing emissions reduction requirements from ICE manufacturers are simply unrealistic.... the move to EVs is unavoidable for car manufacturers be cause the EU and US current and future emissions requirements just can be practically met.

And if the manufacturers had refrained from cheating they would have a voice to say that. Management sanctioned cheating but it is the factory workers who are going to lose their livelihoods. And still no viable (affordable, reliable, with supporting infrastructure) cars for us to use.

 

[markjay]

And if the manufacturers had refrained from cheating they would have a voice to say that. Management sanctioned cheating but it is the factory workers who are going to lose their livelihoods. And still no viable (affordable, reliable, with supporting infrastructure) cars for us to use.

True, but then humanity existed (and flourished) for several millennia (or even longer....) before we each had a car (or two). Perhaps we should rethink how we live in the 21st Century?

 

[Fununcle]

And if the manufacturers had refrained from cheating they would have a voice to say that. Management sanctioned cheating but it is the factory workers who are going to lose their livelihoods. And still no viable (affordable, reliable, with supporting infrastructure) cars for us to use.

You are right except the factory workers have contract guaranteed jobs until 2015 so these job losses are in management, r&d, design etc. To be followed by massive recruitment in ev jobs

 

[Bellow]

You are right except the factory workers have contract guaranteed jobs until 2015 so these job losses are in management, r&d, design etc. To be followed by massive recruitment in ev jobs

Slightly fairer then, the job losses being across the board but none will welcome being paid off.

As an aside, I wonder where the axe will fall in F1 when the cost capping becomes reality. At a guess, there'll be quite a few available to work on the last sentence in your post.

 

[grober]

With developments in the industry like this, all the major German manufacturers about to launch a range of EVs, and the Mercedes EQC about to hit the showrooms is it time to raise the Feb 2018 question again?
https://forums.mbclub.co.uk/threads/new-forum-section.234119/

 

[Petrol Pete]

Yes, but this depends on who are the 17 countries.... strong Workers Unions are mainly a West-European thing, in most other countries around the world they wouldn't need an excuse to cut jobs.

Try cutting jobs in a car plant or any big company in South Africa and the powerful unions will harm you. Industrial action there often results in violence and sometimes death.
For various geopolitical reasons unions are strong there...not doing them much good though, but they have a lot of power to disrupt output at the drop of a hat.

For the most part unions in the UK have less influence than they did in the good/bad old days, that would of course all change in the Momentum...sorry, Labour party wins the next general election.

 

[AMGeed]

To balance out the bad news with the gloomy reading of EV,s and job cuts, some good news from Mercedes. The V12 isn't going away just yet
New Mercedes S-Class to get V12 engine after all - report

 

[Bobclive2]

There is still the issue of the UK power grid and charging points in the high density UK modern housing developments where 95% of the cars are parked half on the road and half on the walkway. This is just to balance their emission targets, same as green energy, won`t work.

 

[John]

To balance out the bad news with the gloomy reading of EV,s and job cuts, some good news from Mercedes. The V12 isn't going away just yet
New Mercedes S-Class to get V12 engine after all - report

I do wonder if the changing mind set of people towards greener forms of transport will make cars featuring V12s disproportionately unpopular.

Bit like smoking has become compared to what it was previously in eras gone by.

 

[markjay]

I do wonder if the changing mind set of people towards greener forms of transport will make cars featuring V12s disproportionately unpopular.

Bit like smoking has become compared to what it was previously in eras gone by.

Good point about cigarettes, we did move from the thick-smoke variants to the electronic ones....

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

"Daimler is planning to cut 10,000 jobs"

Or, in other words, Daimler is planning to cut its 300,000 staffing by just over 3%.

To the same level of staff that it had in 2017. (Because it added 10,000 staff in 2018)

Now, for sure it's significant for the people who aren't recuited to replace those who leave, or who retire, and it's significant for those whose divisions are trimmed.

But, overall, it's not big stuff.

 

[Riva811]

EQ research made a dent to their pockets, followed by diselgate fines. Not to mention Germany is slowly slipping into recession and thats why the government wants to bring investment back into the country.