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Do car washes use rust making saline water ?

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Do car washes use rust making water ?

Garage car washes have always had an element of recycled water I'm wondering how and if they get rid of the salt that is still lingering on our roads and gets into the water ?
If in some areas there is a total hosepipe ban are cars being soaked in car wash brine ?

adam
 
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The pipe ban is residential. Car washes are not affected. THere is a whole thread on this floating around ;)

Michele
 
Brine has no effect on modern paint! Corrosion only occurs where oxidation is possible - so only an issue where permeation such as stone chips exist.
 
stats007 said:
Brine has no effect on modern paint! Corrosion only occurs where oxidation is possible - so only an issue where permeation such as stone chips exist.
That's about 99% of all cars on UK roads then! :p :rolleyes:

Sorry :D

Will
 
stats007 said:
Brine has no effect on modern paint! Corrosion only occurs where oxidation is possible - so only an issue where permeation such as stone chips exist.

My boat disagrees with you.It's amazing how quickly even modern coatings fail.


adam
 
big x said:
My boat disagrees with you.It's amazing how quickly even modern coatings fail.


adam

If the sea were still and didn't have any living things in it then it wouldn't have an effect.

Anyway, generally speaking if your car is modern and you haven't covered it in chip or scratches to the bare metal then it will be fine (unless it's a W210 as pointed out elsewhere :( ). Living on the coast provides a far more harsh environment in winter.
 
stats007 said:
If the sea were still and didn't have any living things in it then it wouldn't have an effect.

Anyway, generally speaking if your car is modern and you haven't covered it in chip or scratches to the bare metal then it will be fine (unless it's a W210 as pointed out elsewhere :( ). Living on the coast provides a far more harsh environment in winter.

Nope.Looking under a car it's normally possible to tell which part of the UK it's from.Scottish cars often look like old fishing boats underneath.Cars from Jersey dispite being on the coast don't.It's purely down to the amount of rocksalt used per year.The salt water also gets into the seams of course.Any spot welds etc not sealed will corrode particularly on MB's that are not galvanized due to cost cutting.
MB rear subframes are painted but if you look at one you will see the rust is in areas that do not get stone chips but do get road spray.
Modern waterbase paints are in fact worse so your wrong on all counts I'm afraid.
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adam
 
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In the context of a car wash there is no concern.

Modern paints are in fact better due to inventions such as these
 
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There is no way I would personally use a car wash. Forget the recycled wate issue. Some 4 x 4 that is dripping with gritty mud goes in. The washer does the bizz and out comes a nice clean 4 x 4. All the advertising and literature explains how the mud, grit etc is cleaned away. Sorry not for me, I simply do not believe it.

Call me stubborn, or old fashioned, but nope.

John
 
glojo said:
Call me stubborn, or old fashioned, but nope.

You're just jealous that you can't fit your Sprinter in the carwash! :D :devil:

Just kidding, but I agree with you. Where does all that grit actually go in the 15-20 seconds before your car gets to the brushes?
 
anarchy-inc said:
You're just jealous that you can't fit your Sprinter in the carwash! :D :devil:

Just kidding, but I agree with you. Where does all that grit actually go in the 15-20 seconds before your car gets to the brushes?

:D :D I'm a good kid using the royal 'I' ....... as in I wash the car. It should really be 'she that must be obeyed, washes the car' I merely supervise :) :)

King John
 
anarchy-inc said:
You're just jealous that you can't fit your Sprinter in the carwash! :D :devil:

Just kidding, but I agree with you. Where does all that grit actually go in the 15-20 seconds before your car gets to the brushes?


They have special washes for trucks and buses ;)
 
Howard said:
They have special washes for trucks and buses ;)


Repeat.

" I'm a good kid using the royal 'I' ....... as in I wash the car. It should really be 'she that must be obeyed, washes the car' I merely supervise

King John"
 
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In 1972 my brother had a 6 month old Ford Escort on the Cayman Islands. The daytime temperature was definately way above freezing point, and I do not recall seeing any gritters out, not even when Santa Claus went around on his pickup drawn sleigh.

Anyway, high humidity and salt air from the sea accelerated the rust in his new car so fast, that I could push my finger clean through the front wing of his car when it was 6 moths old.

From this I deduce that rust will accelerate very quickly when moisture, salt and heat are present. So don't park your wet car in your garage with a hot engine. Let the car cool down, and push it in when it is colder and drier.

You could use as much water as you wanted. The only problem was that you would have to wait until the rain came and replenished the storage tank under your house as there was no mains water at all. All potable water was boiled rain water, and water rates did not exist.
 
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Apial said:
In 1972 my brother had a 6 month old Ford Escort on the Cayman Islands. The daytime temperature was definately way above freezing point, and I do not recall seeing any gritters out, not even when Santa Claus went around on his pickup drawn sleigh.

It is certainly an interesting question,
I can always remember seeing very old cars still being used regularly in New Zealand, and when it rains, it certainly does rain. Yet they never showed any signs of rust (perhaps things have changed in recent times?)

I can also remember terribly rusty cars in the Middle Eastern deserts?? Weird..

I do agree about putting a wet car in a cold garage, that is not a good idea.

John
 

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