Engine oil measuring.

[Metalmickey321]

Hi, I’m scratching my head a bit over this. Done my oil change today on my 2019 E220. Reset service indicator. Took car for a quick 5 minute test drive and went to check oil level. Dash displaying message “Engine Oil Level Measuring Now”.

Left it for a few hours as I’d read to give it 30 mins. Went back to check I and got same message. So I took it for a 40 mile run taking 1 hour 25 mins so engine definitely up to temperature (88 degrees).

Tried several times while out to check oil level and getting same message. Double checked when back home and still the same.

Does anyone have any suggestions? Or is it just a matter of giving it more time? I would’ve thought it would come up quite quickly like tyre pressures.

 

[rf065]

You cannot beat a dipstick, why Mercedes went down this route is beyond me.
Check if you have a dipstick tube and buy one from ebay.

 

[KennyN]

Did you disturb the level sensor wiring whilst you were replacing the oil ?

K

 

[Metalmickey321]

I don’t believe so. Certainly not intentionally if I did. Didn’t unplug or disconnect anything while doing it. Just under trays off. Flat screwdriver to undo drain plug with filter and filling cap already removed to allow it to breathe.

 

[optimusprime]

To start with you should have measured what came out, and put the same quantity back in . And thinking about it you just might have to much in . message judst said check oil,,, but not ,,oil is low or high

 

[rf065]

To start with you should have measured what came out, and put the same quantity back in . And thinking about it you just might have to much in . message judst said check oil,,, but not ,,oil is low or high

That just ensures if the level was wrong before, it will still be wrong after.

 

[Petrol Pete]

How much oil did you put in ?

 

[optimusprime]

To much i recon .

 

[Justintyme]

More oil level confusion. I changed the engine oil (OM654 engine, MB 220 w2123) 6.5 ltrs correct qty (according to MB), and refilled with 6 ltrs & 250 Mili Ltres. Checked out perfect on the onboard computer. So drove a total of 3'800 Klms, with frequent oil level checks, but now, when checked it shows still OK, but the level has dropped to the minimum mark on the dash readout. So, I put 250 MMltrs of oil in, let it settle, then took it for a 5 Klms drive, and rechecked the level... all I'm now getting is the msg, "Checking Oil Level".So now I'll wait until tomorrow and recheck. Maybe have better result then?

 

[SpikyMikey]

I know I'm an old duffer, but was there really anything wrong with the traditional sump dipstick and lint free rag?

 

[Justintyme]

I know I'm an old duffer, but was there really anything wrong with the traditional sump dipstick and lint free rag?

Obviously, the engineering powers that be, thought differently...and sought to put an even bigger divide between mere mortals and their creations....and they are succeeding in that!!!

 

[SpikyMikey]

I'm no technophobe, but it does seem to be tech for tech's sake.

 

[KennyN]

I know I'm an old duffer, but was there really anything wrong with the traditional sump dipstick and lint free rag?

Of course there was as there was no need for a digital level display on the TFT dashboard / an App that harvests your personal details as soon as you download it / a chargeable connected service that can display your oil level on said app / a level sensor that costs a fortune to replace when it fails and dont forget the heart stopping moment your App says "minimum oil level reached" add X litres when it is really a glitch in the Matrix and the level is actually fine but you wont know this as you dont have a bloody dipstick to check the level - got to love the "advancements" in tech and organisational job creation.

K

 

[SpikyMikey]

On my current car, to check oil levels, I have to do it with the engine at operating temperature.
So, if I want to check the oil before doing my regular 125 mile journey to the office, I need to drive for at least 10 minutes, stop on a level piece of ground, wait 5 minutes, then run the oil check programme, which takes another 2 to 3 minutes.
In the good old days, I'd have dipped the oil before setting off, added some if necessary and washed my hands all in about 2 minutes flat.
Progress?

 

[Mickyh7]

Some modern engines just don't have the physical space to route a dipstick.
Hence the sensors.
Obviously some do have the tube, and it's cost cutting not to install the dipstick.
My last 'C' class had gone back to using a sump plug, for oil removal, exactly because of this!

 

[Justintyme]

On my current car, to check oil levels, I have to do it with the engine at operating temperature.
So, if I want to check the oil before doing my regular 125 mile journey to the office, I need to drive for at least 10 minutes, stop on a level piece of ground, wait 5 minutes, then run the oil check programme, which takes another 2 to 3 minutes.
In the good old days, I'd have dipped the oil before setting off, added some if necessary and washed my hands all in about 2 minutes flat.
Progress?

Well at least now I have a set of instructions to follow., Thanks SpikyMikey..nearest I have gotten to a result presently is after driving 15 Klms, up and down hills, I park on level ground, give it a few mins then press the magic buttons, and BINGO.. magic message appear " Calculating oil quantity" (or similar wording) so I wait, and wait.........and wait. Until I get tired of the game, and switch everything off.
Strange, but after changing the oil and filter 3'800 klms ago, it worked perfectly. Bottom line is, it's a bloody nuisance.

 

[Justintyme]

You cannot beat a dipstick, why Mercedes went down this route is beyond me.
Check if you have a dipstick tube and buy one from ebay.

No, unfortunately, there's no provision for a dipstick. And I'm pretty sure that providing a dipstick instead of this electronic monstrosity would have been a less costly (not to mention less stressful) way of doing things...

 

[Justintyme]

Some modern engines just don't have the physical space to route a dipstick.
Hence the sensors.
Obviously some do have the tube, and it's cost cutting not to install the dipstick.
My last 'C' class had gone back to using a sump plug, for oil removal, exactly because of this!

The sump oil drain stud is common to every engine that I have seen, ditto oil dipstick, but now MB (or whoever designs /. manufacturers their engines) seem to have gone 100% away from this. And I don't accept the excuse that it's because there's no room in the engine to fit a dipstick tube...when the engine is being designed, make room for it.

 

[SpikyMikey]

Well at least now I have a set of instructions to follow., Thanks SpikyMikey..nearest I have gotten to a result presently is after driving 15 Klms, up and down hills, I park on level ground, give it a few mins then press the magic buttons, and BINGO.. magic message appear " Calculating oil quantity" (or similar wording) so I wait, and wait.........and wait. Until I get tired of the game, and switch everything off.
Strange, but after changing the oil and filter 3'800 klms ago, it worked perfectly. Bottom line is, it's a bloody nuisance.

The sump oil drain stud is common to every engine that I have seen, ditto oil dipstick, but now MB (or whoever designs /. manufacturers their engines) seem to have gone 100% away from this. And I don't accept the excuse that it's because there's no room in the engine to fit a dipstick tube...when the engine is being designed, make room for it.

It's not just MB; mine's a 3 Series BMW

 

[Mickyh7]

The sump oil drain stud is common to every engine that I have seen, ditto oil dipstick, but now MB (or whoever designs /. manufacturers their engines) seem to have gone 100% away from this. And I don't accept the excuse that it's because there's no room in the engine to fit a dipstick tube...when the engine is being designed, make room for it.

Then the engine wouldn't be as efficient, and/or wouldn't fit into the car.
Designers try to eliminate things, not add them on, this produces cost!
Agreed the sump drain plug is common to MOST engines, but most main dealers don't use them for oil changes.
It's vacuumed out through a dipstick tube, if one is fitted!
Smart cars , for one(MB),just don't have sump plugs.