Formula 1, Moto GP, WSB, 2021 Season

[bob6600]

It was his first stop so me you could say the nut might have been cross threaded when the car was put together in the garage before the race. Unlikely I know as there is (normally) very little pressure on the mechanics at that time . But the level these guys are at I would think that unlikely.

Were his wheels off on the grid before the start , or just in blankets ?

The guns don't appear to be soft start, pretty much all or nothing . Either way a pretty crap way of ending your race for (arguably) the best team in the world.

Could have well happened on the grid. I'm sure they go to the grid on different tyres just incase they get damaged or punctured.

 

[Deleted member 113659]

Even Ferrari tried to remove Valtteri Bottas' wheel nut | Planet F1

Little love is lost between Mercedes and Ferrari, but that did not stop the Scuderia trying to help their fierce rivals at the Monaco GP.

www.planetf1.com

Hmmmm

 

[bob6600]

Mercedes Debrief
Apparently the wheel gun didn't go on square and so machined the nut

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[bob6600]

Insight in to Shovlin's job at Mercedes

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How they finally got Bottas' wheel off (9.29am on Tuesday morning!)

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[Petrol Pete]

Once cut it came off real easy so the threads on the hub must be OK ?

 

[pmcgsmurf]

Once cut it came off real easy so the threads on the hub must be OK ?

Exactly yes as they unscrewed it.
There was talk that the thread on shaft had been machined to nothing, sounds like this was not the case.

So all they needed was a big chisel, a hammer and a walk to get the nut to move.

 

[Bellow]

So all they needed was a big chisel, a hammer and a walk to get the nut to move.

Yep!

 

[GeeJayW]

Jason Dupasquier: Moto3 rider dies from injuries sustained in qualifying crash

Swiss Moto3 rider Jason Dupasquier dies in hospital from injuries he sustained in a crash during Saturday's qualifying session in Italy.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Darrell]

Jason Dupasquier: Moto3 rider dies from injuries sustained in qualifying crash

Swiss Moto3 rider Jason Dupasquier dies in hospital from injuries he sustained in a crash during Saturday's qualifying session in Italy.

www.bbc.co.uk

Just been reading about that. Very sad.

 

[bob6600]

Sad news

 

[AMGeed]

Jason Dupasquier: Moto3 rider dies from injuries sustained in qualifying crash

Swiss Moto3 rider Jason Dupasquier dies in hospital from injuries he sustained in a crash during Saturday's qualifying session in Italy.

www.bbc.co.uk

Very sad, especially only 19 yrs old.
Unsurprisingly, a very sombre mood on all 3 podiums today.
5 years since the death of Luis Salom at a MotoGP meeting, so considering the dangers involved, fatalities are fortunately quite rare.

Even Jonathan Rea dedicated his WSB win today in honour of Jason.

 

[190]

What a young age to die. There is not much that can be done to make motorcycle racing safer, at least on circuits with plenty of run off. Riders almost always get up and walk away from a spill. All the recent deaths like poor Marco Simoncelli which was over 10 years ago now, have been the result of a rider being struck by another bike or their own and that's down to luck or the lack of it.

 

[Rpp999]

Great shame.

 

[AMGeed]

What a young age to die. There is not much that can be done to make motorcycle racing safer, at least on circuits with plenty of run off. Riders almost always get up and walk away from a spill. All the recent deaths like poor Marco Simoncelli which was over 10 years ago now, have been the result of a rider being struck by another bike or their own and that's down to luck or the lack of it.

Unfortunately, that is how this lad came to lose his life.
Marco Simoncelli slid off his bike and into the path of Rossi and Colin Edwards. They couldn't avoid hitting him. I still get a bit upset thinking about that accident unfolding on TV live.

 

[Mactech]

The changing of the guard.
It may well be pure coincidence, but the owners of both F1 and MotoGP have been seen at each others events over the past few months and are known to be sharing experiences. Both are eager to learn from the other as to how they can improve the spectacle.
Over the past few years we have become very accustomed to the news on a Sunday afternoon that Lewis has won the F1 and Marc the MotoGP.

But recently things have changed. Yesterday in MotoGP testing, almost the whole field was covered by a second. Marc and Vale languishing down towards the back of the grid. A second wouldn't have covered the front row in Mick Doohan's era.
In F1 there was not a Mercedes in the top ten in FP2! How long has it been since we saw that?
Next year we enter a whole new set of technical regulations and cost caps and I suspect we can look forward to even more uncertainty.

Is this something you will embrace (Covid regulations permitting!) or were you comforted by the seeing the seeing the true greats of motorsport doing what they do best?

 

[GeeJayW]

Mercedes do seem to be struggling a bit of late. Gone the wrong way on set up? As Max pointed pointed out yesterday the Merc has a long wheel base and they are losing time in the twisty bits, especially on low fuel. Their long run pace looked closer. Will be interesting to see how they get on today and more importantly tomorrow and beyond. I don’t really care who wins as long as it’s fair.

Same for the bikes. I don’t like to see Marquez or anyone else struggling, not least because I don’t like to see riders falling off and getting hurt.

 

[zipdip]

Red Bull have started to shout and scream about their rear wing,Horner was a little weird in his interview,I suspect that when they have to give up their bendy wing performance will go down and MB will be able to compete,that said MB made mistakes last season and they have started to do the same this,if you cannot put that nut runner gun on square best you make the coffees.

 

[GeeJayW]

Red Bull have started to shout and scream about their rear wing,Horner was a little weird in his interview,I suspect that when they have to give up their bendy wing performance will go down and MB will be able to compete,that said MB made mistakes last season and they have started to do the same this,if you cannot put that nut runner gun on square best you make the coffees.

Red Bull were quick to report Ferrari for what they thought were fuel-flow irregularities, and yet they whine when others query their car. For sure Mercedes and the rest of the teams will get closer inspection of their wings too as a consequence of ‘wing-gate’.

Mercedes have work to do at the moment.

 

[Bellow]

Is this something you will embrace (Covid regulations permitting!) or were you comforted by the seeing the seeing the true greats of motorsport doing what they do best?

That is just such a question that whatever answer I give now will probably be over-ridden by another viewpoint later!

For now, so long as the regulations are fair (and don't just maliciously penalise the inventive/creative) then every dog has it's day. That is, we can't bemoan another team ascending to greatness over an established one and when that is true greatness we should make the effort to understand and appreciate the achievement and not merely resent the success (as repetitive/boring/etc).

There are though so many elements to F1 it's hard to put them in any particular pecking order. That some are more predominant than others at a given point in time is just how F1 is. Eg, when one driver starts winning more than the others he draws a crowd to see what the fuss is about. When he always wins, people turn away. F1 is a at least a dozen or so such dichotomies.

 

[bob6600]

Ferrari back to back poles? You would never have thought it, although there were red flags involved. Max and Lewis were definitely on quicker laps, as was Bottas although not likely as quick. Mercedes showed why they are that good...from being completely off the pace, they got Lewis there or there abouts. Mercedes usually have a faster race car and should be competitive tomorrow.