German Grand Prix in doubt

[Stratman]

Have Pirelli actually come out with any statement?

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Here's what they said

Extract from the article:-

The manufacturer said, in its first statement, that all the failures happened on cars with the rear tyres mounted on opposite sides of the car from the one intended.
This has become common practice this season as teams try to manage usage of tyres that have been designed to wear out quickly to guarantee races with multiple pit stops.
Pirelli was aware of the practice but has now admitted it "underestimated" the effect it could have and admitted it "did not forbid" it.
It added that "under-inflation of the tyres and extreme camber settings, over which Pirelli has no control, are choices that can be dangerous under certain circumstances.
"Because of this, Pirelli has asked the FIA for these parameters which will be a topic of accurate and future examinations.
"Pirelli has also asked for compliance with these rules to be checked by a dedicated (FIA) delegate."

 

[grober]

Would be interesting to know exactly what happened with for example the Mercedes team tyres= same car+ same tyres +same corners >>>>>Lewis Hamilton = catastrophic rear failure Nico Rosberg= won the race. Did they start out with the same rear tyre reversal set up or not? Did they swap back to the right way round later in the race? Or was it simply STAY OFF THE KERBS A BIT MORE LEWIS! Does seem that once more the rules were " bent" to achieve a competitive advantage. I expect Pirelli , somewhat bruised by the recent "not so secret" testing affair, were keeping their heads down on this one. Time for a little more enforcing of the tyre approved fitting regulations perhaps? Maybe that's what the drivers are demanding?

 

[brucemillar]

Would be interesting to know exactly what happened with for example the Mercedes team tyres= same car+ same tyres +same corners >>>>>Lewis Hamilton = catastrophic rear failure Nico Rosberg= won the race. Did they start out with the same rear tyre reversal set up or not? Did they swap back to the right way round later in the race? Or was it simply STAY OFF THE KERBS A BIT MORE LEWIS! Does seem that once more the rules were " bent" to achieve a competitive advantage. I expect Pirelli , somewhat bruised by the recent "not so secret" testing affair, were keeping their heads down on this one. Time for a little more enforcing of the tyre approved fitting regulations perhaps? Maybe that's what the drivers are demanding?

Graeme

You are correct. Pirelli are in a no win situation. The recent court case demonstrated just how bad things are between the different factions and interests.

Pirelli are being asked to make tyres that degrade quickly.

They are then asked to ensure that they are safe, have grip, and do not favour any single team.

Then they are obliged to follow the F1 testing rules that were never designed for this situation. This means that they cannot test with a current car or current driver but still have to meet the rules above. Add into this the demands of the the teams who like the current tyres against those teams who do not and Pirelli are doomed.

The FIA need to get their house in order and quickly. I can see Pirelli simply shutting up shop and pulling out.

It is now clear that the recent testing debacle was exactly that and the blame for that lies with all involved in the sport. There is a culture of wink, wink, nod in F1 teams when it comes to the rules. They all think its great until they are not winning then its a breach of the rules.

So tyre swapping, messing with pressures denying testing, secret testing. Somebody will be seriously injured or killed. Then we will see the normal finger pointing start again.

 

[grober]

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[wemorgan]

IMHO the drivers have come away looking a bit foolish. They complained about safety yet what they really care about is being fast. This is the usual F1 circus story.