Is a AMG c class a supercar brand?

[stumpy1]

Price and exclusivity driven. HyperCars ought to cost no less than 300k

 

[wemorgan]

First 'super' now 'hyper', all sounds like vocabulary inflation to me

I blame footballers myself. All those kids in the public eye driving around in 'super' cars has devalued their exclusivity.

 

[Gridlock]

I'd argue the super>hyper leap is all about performance, not price (albeit the 2 are of course linked).

I think you could almost keep "hypercar" an invite-only list, off the top of my head:

* Veyron
* Carrera GT
* Enzo
* CCX?
* F1

A bog standard 360 Modena is a supercar, yet only bests my (relatively) cheap-ass Golf by 13bhp/tonne - a hypercar would be a 200bhp/tonne difference, warp factor 10-capable kinda car

 

[wemorgan]

I'd argue the super>hyper leap is all about performance, not price (albeit the 2 are of course linked).

I think you could almost keep "hypercar" an invite-only list, off the top of my head:

* Veyron
* Carrera GT
* Enzo
* CCX?
* F1

A bog standard 360 Modena is a supercar, yet only bests my (relatively) cheap-ass Golf by 13bhp/tonne - a hypercar would be a 200bhp/tonne difference, warp factor 10-capable kinda car

But then cars like Caterham SuperLight and Ariel Atom come in to play.
So they must need a category all to themselves?

 

[Gridlock]

I wondered how long before the Atom came up

Hypercars cannot be bested by a track slag, supercars can - and the Atom and Superlight are track slags, defined as any car my mum would refuse to get into

 

[Mudster]

A supercar should be entirely impractical and pointless for anything other than driving at absurd speeds.

You should not be able to manoeuvre it through a multistory car park...but if you can, then the doors open in such a way that you couldn't get out anyway.

Driving it should be an event, a pantomime if you will. People must stand, point and stare as you drive down the road. Small children will be beside themselves and jump up and down.

You must be required to plan your journeys via fuel stations as the fuel consumption is so absurd.

It must be extremely difficult to get in and out of, absolutely no chance of a "Lady" entering or exiting the vehicle without a Sharon Stone moment.

It must be so expensive as to be vulgar, making the act of owning/driving bordering on being a c0ck.

I'll add as I think of more parameters.

 

[Gridlock]

Chris Evans or, ideally, Rowan Atkinson must own one.

Does this make the British Leyland Mangusta a supercar?

 

[neilrr]

Is a AMG c class a supercar brand?

No.

 

[renault12ts]

^ lol

 

[rees_A]

My AMG is my supercar. I doubt I will ever own anything faster and I DO think that speed determines supercar status not looks/practicality.

 

[rees_A]

Agree with all the above. I'd love a C63 or C55, but ultimately it's still just a C Class.

You've obviously never driven one....

 

[renault12ts]

A supercar...is something every little boy has as a poster on his bedroom wall and although the C63s etc are no doubt brilliant performers they just do not cut the mustard in terms of exotic looks. In that sense then...they are ultimately just a C class. No offence intended...just a simple truth.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

I've seen it said a few times the AMG C Class' are more of a muscle car than anything else, I'm quite happy with that characterisation - mass produced saloon with something special hidden in it and a V8 soundtrack...

Yep. I buy that. MB are masters at what the US market used to 'own' for themselves: "muscle cars" or "hot rods". Mainstream production cars with engines and power outputs much larger than is actually required, and subtley uprated elsewhere. What we might call a supersaloon.

RUF and Porsche is another interesting one. To me, the mainstay of the Porsche 911 is the Carrera - not the homologation specials, or aftermarket tuners - and the Carrera whilst fast, is a sports car, not a super car. Whether MB or someone else, they just uprate it as AMG do saloons, and probably create what we might call a supersports.

The supercar tag is applied at release and then stays with the car. A 70's supercar is still a supercar, even though there are now saloons that could leave them for dust.

Another criteria for a supercar is that it must resemble sorts of cars that children under the age of 14 but over the age of 6 are best at. Too young and they draw 3 box saloons, ie AMGs.

 

[renault12ts]

Yep. I buy that. MB are masters at what the US market used to 'own' for themselves: "muscle cars" or "hot rods". Mainstream production cars with engines and power outputs much larger than is actually required, and subtley uprated elsewhere. What we might call a supersaloon.

RUF and Porsche is another interesting one. To me, the mainstay of the Porsche 911 is the Carrera - not the homologation specials, or aftermarket tuners - and the Carrera whilst fast, is a sports car, not a super car. Whether MB or someone else, they just uprate it as AMG do saloons, and probably create what we might call a supersports.

The supercar tag is applied at release and then stays with the car. A 70's supercar is still a supercar, even though there are now saloons that could leave them for dust.

Another criteria for a supercar is that it must resemble sorts of cars that children under the age of 14 but over the age of 6 are best at. Too young and they draw 3 box saloons, ie AMGs.

And diesels at that !!

 

[mw_C32]

A supercar...is something every little boy has as a poster on his bedroom wall and although the C63s etc are no doubt brilliant performers they just do not cut the mustard in terms of exotic looks. In that sense then...they are ultimately just a C class. No offence intended...just a simple truth.

So now that I have a poster up on my bedroom wall of my C63 it is now officially a supercar....:bannana::bannana::bannana:

Come to think of it I have one of the ML too!!!! now I'm confused...

Ah well who gives a dam! I love em ......


M.

 

[renault12ts]

So now that I have a poster up on my bedroom wall of my C63 it is now officially a supercar....:bannana::bannana::bannana:

Come to think of it I have one of the ML too!!!! now I'm confused...

Ah well who gives a dam! I love em ......


M.

Should you be driving at your age.

 

[mw_C32]

Shhh!!!

Don't tell me dad....

M

 

[trainer]

I agree that my C32 no matter how fun and fast is far to practical to be a supercar. It is super and it is a car and can move the family of five around in a way that any supercar would struggle to do.

The thing is it is affordable to me, easy to drive for my wife and I, has a useful boot, doesn't attract attention, can be insured for less than £400 and can be serviced almost anywhere - therefore it can't be a supercar.

Still it makes me smile and that is what matters.

 

[Baron_Samedi]

A supercar should be entirely impractical and pointless for anything other than driving at absurd speeds.

You should not be able to manoeuvre it through a multistory car park...but if you can, then the doors open in such a way that you couldn't get out anyway.

Driving it should be an event, a pantomime if you will. People must stand, point and stare as you drive down the road. Small children will be beside themselves and jump up and down.

You must be required to plan your journeys via fuel stations as the fuel consumption is so absurd.

It must be extremely difficult to get in and out of, absolutely no chance of a "Lady" entering or exiting the vehicle without a Sharon Stone moment.

It must be so expensive as to be vulgar, making the act of owning/driving bordering on being a c0ck.

I'll add as I think of more parameters.

I bet they making tracks to the doors of Mansory for a G Wagen thing then!

Oh and no C Class could ever be described as a super car....

 

[A210AMG]

A super car is one of those cars as a kid you had pictures on your bedroom walls and look out of this world.

For me it was a Lamborghini Countash LP5000Qv with the spoiler !!!.

As a kid a 4 door saloon just doesn't do it, even though now in the real world a C63 is probably quicker. Same nowadays as mentioned a lot of 'supercars' are probably not much if any quicker than a C63. However a super car turns heads when parked up. Its a 'lottery' win car for most people. Has the 'wow' factor and mad and impractable, low, wide etc etc.


I agree the C63 is an everyday super car and one that more realistic for people to own. I guess people with a 'real' super car choose the likes of a C63, E63 as their family 'sensible' cars