Looking for H7 high beam xenon kit for C43 AMG

[noogieman]

I would like to upgrade my high beams with aftermarket xenon bulbs.
I found some kits on UK Ebay.

Anyone got these kits?
Are they worth buying?

Seller claims this kit got german technology and uses the best canbus on the market?
H7 6000K HID Xenon Conversion KIT Mercedes A E C class | eBay

Seller claims this kit uses the best canbus of them all?
H7 6000K HID Slim CanBus Compatible with EMC Xenon Conversion KIT MERCEDES BENZ | eBay


Are there better kits for similar price or a bit further up in the price range?

Another question?
I am not sure if factory xenon bulbs are 4300K as my xenons are standard factory white.
These xenon kits above are 6000K.
Would there be a big difference in color tone between 4300K and 6000K?
I'd rather have matching colortone on low and high beam.

I have a new set of Philips D2R spare bulbs coded 85126, seller said these are 5000K giving white-bluish colortone?
Seems like the above 6000K kit gives a bluish effect matching my 5000K?
http://www.ebay.de/itm/2x-Philips-D...641635971?pt=DE_Autoteile&hash=item53f7eaa683

I'm getting confused about Kelvin and color tone charts

 

[noogieman]

Start up on high beam is it in milliseconds or does it take forever to light up?
There are Speedstart and Slim ballast system?
Which one is better?

Factory zenons on w202 are they 35 watts - 55 watts or 75 watts?
Which one of the 3 wattage kits should I get to match my low beam zenons?

Who sells replacement bulbs for these aftermarket xenon kits when bulbs fry to death?

 

[tonyc280]

Zenon kits are illegal with standard head lamps and extremely dazzling if not used with a Projector type Lenz !!!

 

[tonyc280]

Just get some decent Phillips bulbs and you wont go wrong T.

 

[horgantrevor]

He has ome xenon headlights just not high beam

 

[boxbrownie]

The xenon kits will not "strike up" to full intensity fast enough to be safe as main beam lamps, the OEM xenon main beams use a system of shutters to "open" the main beam light path.

I have a kit (H7) on my dips but the main beams I have changed for Philips highest intensity halogen bulbs, which are very good actually. This is your best option.

Also the highest output for the same wattage with xenons is 4500K......as soon as you start raising the colour temperature (making them more blue) the output lowers, these road warriors who fit 8000K high blue bulbs have a lot less light on the road than the lower temperature bulbs, but then they never fitted them for the safety aspect!

 

[renault12ts]

Start up on high beam is it in milliseconds or does it take forever to light up?
There are Speedstart and Slim ballast system?
Which one is better?

Factory zenons on w202 are they 35 watts - 55 watts or 75 watts?
Which one of the 3 wattage kits should I get to match my low beam zenons?

Who sells replacement bulbs for these aftermarket xenon kits when bulbs fry to death?

Proper Xenons as fitted OEM are 35 watts.

4300k is the ideal temp...not 6000k. I might stretch to 5000k but not beyond.

Main beams are halogen for a reason...

 

[noogieman]

The xenon kits will not "strike up" to full intensity fast enough to be safe as main beam lamps, the OEM xenon main beams use a system of shutters to "open" the main beam light path.

I have a kit (H7) on my dips but the main beams I have changed for Philips highest intensity halogen bulbs, which are very good actually. This is your best option.

Also the highest output for the same wattage with xenons is 4500K......as soon as you start raising the colour temperature (making them more blue) the output lowers, these road warriors who fit 8000K high blue bulbs have a lot less light on the road than the lower temperature bulbs, but then they never fitted them for the safety aspect!

If I don't buy aftermarket xenon kit for high beam and buy the Philips bulb you recommended, do they give a fake white xenon look?
I don't want yellowish HUE looks, this is what I have now yellow HUE.

Proper Xenons as fitted OEM are 35 watts.

4300k is the ideal temp...not 6000k. I might stretch to 5000k but not beyond.

Main beams are halogen for a reason...

yeah, I somehow figured it out my xenons must be 35 watt bulbs as my replacement 5000K bulbs are branded as 35watts.

Anyone here on this forum upgraded their high beams with aftermarket xenons?
Do you like your mod or not?
Any b4 and after pictures?

I thank you all for your expertise

 

[boxbrownie]

If I don't buy aftermarket xenon kit for high beam and buy the Philips bulb you recommended, do they give a fake white xenon look?
I don't want yellowish HUE looks, this is what I have now yellow HUE.

They will be slightly bluer, but still a Halogen so still no Xenon blue, if you go for a tinted Halogen it will give a lower output, so whats the point?

If I don't buy aftermarket xenon kit for high

Anyone here on this forum upgraded their high beams with aftermarket xenons?


I thank you all for your expertise

I am pretty sure no one on this forum would upgrade thier high beams with aftermarket HiD kits, it would be stupid and not a little dangerous, as for the reasons stated before.....

Seriously go for the high output Philips H7 halogens and be happy in the knowledge that you have probably the best legal solution available.

 

[noogieman]

They will be slightly bluer, but still a Halogen so still no Xenon blue, if you go for a tinted Halogen it will give a lower output, so whats the point?


I am pretty sure no one on this forum would upgrade thier high beams with aftermarket HiD kits, it would be stupid and not a little dangerous, as for the reasons stated before.....

Seriously go for the high output Philips H7 halogens and be happy in the knowledge that you have probably the best legal solution available.

a lot of guys in Sweden did the high beam xenon mod when reading the swedish MB forum, that's the reason why this mod got me interested.

can you give me the correct name of that philips bulb you recommended?
if you know the cheapest place where to buy them, please link the site.

I have Philips BlueVision Ultra H7 4000K high beam, they give a yellowish HUE, I don't like them!!!

thanks

 

[boxbrownie]

I have always used Car Bulbs, Headlights, Xenon Bulbs | Philips & Osram | PowerBulbs and the bulbs are the Philips X-treme Vision twin pack at £30, you might get them slightly cheaper elsewhere but I know Powerbulbs sell the genuine article. They also sell a Philips H7 bulbs which has what Philips call an HiD "look" but they are only 30% up rated rather then 100% of the X-treme Vision bulbs.

As for the Swedes using HiD kits in the main beam it is of course entirely possible physically but practically it is a major dumb thing to do. It takes several seconds (even up to 30 or more) depending upon the quality of the kit for the HiDs to give full output, not a "brilliant" idea for a main beam.

 

[noogieman]

I have always used Car Bulbs, Headlights, Xenon Bulbs | Philips & Osram | PowerBulbs and the bulbs are the Philips X-treme Vision twin pack at £30, you might get them slightly cheaper elsewhere but I know Powerbulbs sell the genuine article. They also sell a Philips H7 bulbs which has what Philips call an HiD "look" but they are only 30% up rated rather then 100% of the X-treme Vision bulbs.

As for the Swedes using HiD kits in the main beam it is of course entirely possible physically but practically it is a major dumb thing to do. It takes several seconds (even up to 30 or more) depending upon the quality of the kit for the HiDs to give full output, not a "brilliant" idea for a main beam.

is this a flaw on all xenon kits that high beam might take up to 30 sec to light up?
that might be dangerous!
I've seen different pricetags on several HID kits, everyone claims they have the best stuff.

Is there a higher Kelvin rate for PhilipsX-treme bulbs getting more white than my Philips bulbs with 4000K?

 

[andy27168]

Hi,
I have been considering a way of making the High Beam on a 43 a proper Xenon, and as others have said because of the warm up time required for a Xenon, they really are unsuitable without installing a bi-xenon unit.
I have found this on E-bay, and my interpretation of what the guy is selling is a unit that replaces the existing high beam bulb with an additional HID bulb except when the high beam is put on a shutter opens and because the bulb is already wired on, no warm up time required.
New HID Bi-Xenon Projector Halo Headlamp kit H1, H7 6k | eBay
Hope I have explained that clearly, OEM Bi-xenons work in a similar way, I,m not saying these particular ones are suitable for a 43, but might be worth looking through the listings of e-bay for H7 BIXENON KIT.

 

[boxbrownie]

is this a flaw on all xenon kits that high beam might take up to 30 sec to light up?
that might be dangerous!
I've seen different pricetags on several HID kits, everyone claims they have the best stuff.

It is not a flaw, merely the physical way that HiDs work, which is why they are used in dip beams where they stay illuminated all the time, when used in a main beam configuration they are part of the dip assembly but "shuttered" so when main beam is required they are already at full brightness, no flaws.

Only dangerous when fitted as an aftermarket kit into main beam lamps

Is there a higher Kelvin rate for PhilipsX-treme bulbs getting more white than my Philips bulbs with 4000K?

That is a question you are best aiming towards somebody like Powerbulbs or Philips themselves.

 

[boxbrownie]

Hi,
I have been considering a way of making the High Beam on a 43 a proper Xenon, and as others have said because of the warm up time required for a Xenon, they really are unsuitable without installing a bi-xenon unit.
I have found this on E-bay, and my interpretation of what the guy is selling is a unit that replaces the existing high beam bulb with an additional HID bulb except when the high beam is put on a shutter opens and because the bulb is already wired on, no warm up time required.
New HID Bi-Xenon Projector Halo Headlamp kit H1, H7 6k | eBay
Hope I have explained that clearly, OEM Bi-xenons work in a similar way, I,m not saying these particular ones are suitable for a 43, but might be worth looking through the listings of e-bay for H7 BIXENON KIT.

These would require the headlamp unit of the vehicle to be hacked about to install these replacement units, something they do in the states all the time, but then the regs over there are completely different, if you did this over here and they happen to fail the MoT check, rather than just a quick bulb swap to pass, you would need to source two new complete headlamp units....quite a gamble and no guaruntee these are going to be better on main beam than the upgraded Philips bulbs.

 

[andy27168]

Oh I was well aware of the hacking around it could require to make them fit but as it is for the high beam which is a separate part of the headlight reflector to the dipped beam (on a 202 anyway) and that the beam pattern of the high beam as far I was aware is not testable it could be considered as an option if a HID was required that badly for the high beam. Though I agree it is a lot of hassle to go to just so your high beam is the same colour as your dipped beam, and then like you say what is there to guarentee it will be any better than a top quality Halogen lamp.

 

[boxbrownie]

Problem is though, as that custom fit effectively adds another dip lamp to your car I am not so sure they would ignore it, doesn't really matter how many dip beams you have they all have to be aligned correctly thus tested.
I don't think it's a mod that would be passed over as easily by a tester as just an upgraded bulb change.
Who's going to be first to try?

 

[noogieman]

took the plunge and bought Philips X-Treme vison H7 bulbs for high beam.
these suppose to have 4800K white looks.
these bulbs do they have longlife burntime?

There are also Philips Crystal Vision bulbs with 4300K.
These should match stock xenons which also have 4300K white looks.
http://www.ebay.de/itm/H7-Philips-C...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item45f4187b7f

Anyone tried both version bulbs and which ones did you like more over the other?

Recently I bought new xenon replacement bulbs which have 5000K.
Hopefully my new X-Treme vision bulbs will closely colormatch my xenon bulbs?

I watched some youtube videos and some cars really showed a white colortone from these XTRME bulbs.

 

[noogieman]

I have always used Car Bulbs, Headlights, Xenon Bulbs | Philips & Osram | PowerBulbs and the bulbs are the Philips X-treme Vision twin pack at £30, you might get them slightly cheaper elsewhere but I know Powerbulbs sell the genuine article. They also sell a Philips H7 bulbs which has what Philips call an HiD "look" but they are only 30% up rated rather then 100% of the X-treme Vision bulbs.

As for the Swedes using HiD kits in the main beam it is of course entirely possible physically but practically it is a major dumb thing to do. It takes several seconds (even up to 30 or more) depending upon the quality of the kit for the HiDs to give full output, not a "brilliant" idea for a main beam.

hey buddy
I fitted my H7 X-treme Vision bulbs to my car, they are better than my previous Blue Visions from Philips which had a nasty yellowish hue.
XTreme Vison are not perfect, they don't colormatch my factory stock zenons.

Blue Vision has a 4000 Kelvin

XTreme Vision has a 4800 Kelvin

My stock zenons has 4300 Kelvin if i remember correct?
XTreme Visions doesn't match these at all as my stock zenons has a white colortone and XTreme Visions still have a yellowish hue?
Philips should have made a whiter bulb.

Are there any white colored condoms for bulbs, making them whiter?

 

[R120]

Not to go OT, but both my C43's have factory Zenons and I can't say that they have ever struck me as being underpowered.

Is there really a significant improvement to be had?