Motorbike Vs W202

[GRAV888]

You should have a go on my bike John.
Kawasaki ZX9R C2, ported and gas flowed stage 3 heads, gears re-defined for top speed, full race exhaust, lightened engine, DB racing rear-sets, race-alloy pistons etc etc etc

196 bhp and top speed of well over 200mph. (104 in 1st )
Unfortunately, can't be used on a road now though.

 

[glojo]

You should have a go on my bike John.
Kawasaki ZX9R C2, ported and gas flowed stage 3 heads, gears re-defined for top speed, full race exhaust, lightened engine, DB racing rear-sets, race-alloy pistons etc etc etc

196 bhp and top speed of well over 200mph. (104 in 1st )
Unfortunately, can't be used on a road now though.

Hi Grav,
I was just having a giggle at your signature E-55 eats tyres!!!

Then I read the specs. of your motor bike??? I don't suppose the tyres are on the bike long enough to be digested??

I have just watched a road test on television (Bikes Aloud2) the Yamaha R1 vs Ducati 999. 80mph in first gear??? without all your extra modifications (104mph in first) Just a bog standard road bike.

Many years ago I was given a Laverda Jota to play with for the day!! It was just too fast, and there is no way in this mans world that I could take advantage of the full potential of these modern high performce sports bikes.

(if the engine's not screaming then your not weaving )

Regards,
John

 

[SamR]

John, thanks for the feedback. A 90 mph all day cruise is doable especially if you ride regularly and the neck is in good shape (seriously though, it isn't much strain, the clocks deflect alot). Otherwise you don't feel anything at all at 80. Over the ton starts to be an effort and you can't sustain this for much time, before neck ache (which I think is a good thing). Seats are large comfy, and the bike is favoured by people of a bigger build and also by pillions. Stability-wise it's steady as a rock all the way up to the top end. Not the best bike for long distance motorway though. I used to ride from Herts to Cambs(60 miles) no problem.

Sports bikes are superior on performance, but how often will anyone notice the difference between 3.2 0-60 and 2.8? On the track for sure...

Also the insurance group isn't so high, and also they're less desirable for thieves. The bigabusa is the big daddy

 

[GRAV888]

Hi Grav,
I was just having a giggle at your signature E-55 eats tyres!!!

Especially when I'm sitting at some traffic lights with the rear wheels spinning.
(Some people will know what I'm talking about)

 

[GRAV888]

Sports bikes are superior on performance, but how often will anyone notice the difference between 3.2 0-60 and 2.8? On the track for sure...

Not too sure of the 0-60 on mine, but is 0-100-0 in less than 9 seconds.
But, then again, mine will be used in the British Superstock series next year.
I have a test day arranged for next friday :bannana: :bannana:

 

[glojo]

Especially when I'm sitting at some traffic lights with the rear wheels spinning.
(Some people will know what I'm talking about)

Your notoriety has gone before you, and we have heard about the 'poor' road surface at a certain set of traffic lights.

I once pulled away from a set of lights and left my pillion passenger flat on his back!!! (I knew something was wrong when the front wheel started lifting ) Kinda lucky I was a bit of an 'amber gambler' in my very mis-spent youth.

 

[Will]

Not too sure of the 0-60 on mine, but is 0-100-0 in less than 9 seconds.
But, then again, mine will be used in the British Superstock series next year.
I have a test day arranged for next friday :bannana: :bannana:

That 0-100 time should be much less than 9 seconds!

Most standard large CC sports bikes will do 100 in around six seconds or so!

Cheers,

Will

Edit - just noticed your 0-100-0 figure!

Sounds about right to me!

 

[GRAV888]

Edit - just noticed your 0-100-0 figure!

Sounds about right to me!

 

[DanW]

0-100-0 in less than 9 seconds is a little optimistic IMHO

Autocar have just done a test of the worlds fastest cars, and as a guide got John Reynolds (current BSB champion) to do a run on a GSXR1000.

The bike did it in 10.89 seconds beating everything but a Cateram R500 which although was much slower accellerating than the bike, did brake enormously hard.

0-100 was reached in 5.03 sec's compared to the R500's 6.92

Imagine if you could get the power down on a bike as hard as you can in a car!!!!!

 

[Sp!ke]

196 bhp and top speed of well over 200mph. (104 in 1st )

I'm not trying to cause doubt but 196 hp out of a ZX9r... this I gotto see... Who did the work? What work exactly and have you got any dyno printouts?

Would you like to back up your 200mph claim on a runway through the traps with the 200mph clubin spring? It would certainly be an absolute 1st that anything less than 1200cc hit the magic milestone.

196hp ... still cant get my head round the fact that a normally aspirated 9 will get up that high.

 

[GRAV888]

Most of the work was done by one of my mates that works for Stan Stevens race tuning and some by a bloke who races formula 2. He actually made a water cooled head and barrel from scratch for one of his outfits.(Started out as a lambretta LI150)
The engine has been completely stripped and rebuilt.
The engine was based on the 'Hawk Kawasaki@ of Glen Richards and Scott Smart.
He also did my R1 when I had that and that was clocked at 207 on a runway.
If you want to try it at that speed, you are more than welcome to have a go, but I'm losing my bottle with age.
Going semi-fast round a race track is enough for me these days.
Edited to add: remember that the gear ratios have been played around with and pulling away in 1st requires slipping the cluth.(It's the equivalent of nearly 2nd on a standard bike.)

 

[Sp!ke]

If you want to try it at that speed, you are more than welcome to have a go, but I'm losing my bottle with age.

Hmmm .... fancy joining me in a trip up to RAF woodbridge in spring and I'll see what she'll do. I'll be taking my Busa anyway so whats an extra bike in the transit hey?

Your BHP figues... is that at the crank or at the back wheel? If its the back wheel, we'd be in with a fighting chance in the right conditions. If its at the crank, it will equate to 183 to 185 rwhp so, I'd find it doubtful that we'd get a genuine 200 out of it....close but no cigar.

 

[DanW]

You should have a go on my bike John.
Kawasaki ZX9R C2, ported and gas flowed stage 3 heads, gears re-defined for top speed, full race exhaust, lightened engine, DB racing rear-sets, race-alloy pistons etc etc etc

196 bhp and top speed of well over 200mph. (104 in 1st )
Unfortunately, can't be used on a road now though.

I didnt think you were allowed to change pistons to run in superstock.

 

[GRAV888]

I didnt think you were allowed to change pistons to run in superstock.

Got away with it before.
Only way to tell is to strip the engine and have only seen this been done once.
I am not a serious contender for the championship or anything, so don't see the harm.
At the end of the day, it is a bit of fun for me (sometimes pain).

 

[DanW]

I've seen em strip motors down before, especially a supposedly stock zx9 is a missile down the straights.

Look forward to seeing you out there

 

[GRAV888]

I've seen em strip motors down before, especially a supposedly stock zx9 is a missile down the straights.

Look forward to seeing you out there

You racing the same series too Dan, or another?

 

[glojo]

I hope you do not think I am being cheeky, but I have started a new thread in Off Topic, because this very interesting thread has drifted slightly and I would love to hear more about the high speed escapades of some fellow members.

Regards,
John

 

[Sp!ke]

Checked the stats with a man who knows.... a big bore zx9 with absolutely oodles of money and time spent on it... 160 rwbhp max regardless as to what you do. The only way to get any more is by using forced induction of some kind.

160 rwbhp equatsto somewhere short of a true 180mph but may well indicate 200 because of the higher gear ratio's affecting speedo accuracy as it is electronically calibrated.

The same could be said about an R1. No R1 has ever recorded a true 200mph over a measured mile. Indicated - yes true 200 - nah!

I could be proved wrong on this but unless your tuner is doing something no-one else can, I cant see it happening.

 

[GRAV888]

Checked the stats with a man who knows.... a big bore zx9 with absolutely oodles of money and time spent on it... 160 rwbhp max regardless as to what you do. The only way to get any more is by using forced induction of some kind.

160 rwbhp equatsto somewhere short of a true 180mph but may well indicate 200 because of the higher gear ratio's affecting speedo accuracy as it is electronically calibrated.

The same could be said about an R1. No R1 has ever recorded a true 200mph over a measured mile. Indicated - yes true 200 - nah!

I could be proved wrong on this but unless your tuner is doing something no-one else can, I cant see it happening.

Just seen your other post.
It's at the crank.
If it was at the rear wheel, I think I would be dead by now

 

[mw_C32]

Might be slightly off topic but seeing as you are talking upgrades....

I recently saw Ghostrider 2 and in that they have a turbocharged bike (not sure which one) but it had 499bhp. They raced it along a dual carrigeway with cameras strapped to the bike with more cameras strapped to a following gixxer. It was shown with dual screens so you could see the gixxer speedo at 275K/ph then the turbo charged thing comes flying past doing a wheelie....

If its true, and it sure looked like the real thing, there are some complete numpties out there for sure.

By the way I just got a new Fazer 1000 and love it.