New 2007 G-WAGEN 'Facelift' G63

[wallingd]

Can't believe people are saying the king of off-roading the trusty old Land Rover is rubbish off-road... Only the Cayenne + Q7 are arguably less competent in standard trim.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

face it, G wagons, GL series, land rovers, discos, range rovers, porsche cayennes Q7`s all suck as off roaders, they are called chelsea tractors for one good reason, they are brought by people who want to look like off roader out door types but wouldnt know a locking diff if I smacked them in the face with one, (I may or may not have woken up in a bad mood) so why bother advertising its ground clearance or attack angles? if you go off roading the vehicle you are most likely to see is one of these because its the cheapest AND IT WILL GO ANYWHERE

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pinzgauer-710...yZ122307QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

form follows function, like a race car, its ugly but purposefull, if your gonna talk off roading talk about this, if your gonna talk tart wagons, (whats mentioned above) I would just like to mention that at the car show where they had an off roader course they had a Pinzgauer to hand of any of them got stuck!

Whoa, where did that come from!!??

I think it's fair to say that if you wanted to take "off roading" seriously you probably wouldn't start out with a new vehicle designed to spend most of it's life on the road. If you want to compete or take part in off-road events, or cross Siberia, a Glacier, the Amazon or something extreme environment, and you don't mind roughing it then a vehicle like the Pinagauer might be just the ticket.

However what if you don't need anything that extreme - ie you're not the millitary, mountain rescue, or Sir Ranulph Twisleton-Wykeham-Fiennes - but do place a value on being able to do a little more than a second-hand family hatch is capable off-road? Well in that scenario you turn to the many road-orientated 4x4s/SUVs/Off-roaders/Chelsea-Tractors/Gaz-Guzzler (or whatever you like to call them) that are common place on the road.

That's the beauty of life - it's not stark black and white - it's a beautiful shade of grey. If you want extreme then that ebay ad may be a good place to start. If you want to go to the shops get a Micra. If you regularly go off-road something like a Defender or G-Wagen might be a good option, or if you occasionaly go off-road or need quasi-off-road ability then a Discovery, Range Rover, ML, etc might be right up your street. If you just want to look the part but have great on road dynamics then a Cayenne, X5, etc might be best.

See, a beautiful selection of shades of grey.

 

[W210 Fan]

yeah I did wake up in a bad mood sorry about that, i did apologise, but I do agree that these vehicles are built to look nice and be comfy, they make suit waring off roading a comfy experience, however there is no point in pointing out their good off road capability when they dont have any,

WallingD, MoD buy lots of land rovers as they are as cheap as chips

 

[KillerHERTZ]

G-WAGENS NO GOOD OFF ROAD? I think not!

Replacing the LandRover in the British army!

 

[stats007]

Hang on a mo,

I thought the '63' was a N/A V8, yet the white one clearly says V12 on the side, but is selling as a G63..................something strange going on there, unless my eyes are breaking again!!!!!

AMG also make (or used to) a 6.3 V12 - the W215 was available as a CL63 with this V12 before the NA 6.3L V8 was available.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

yeah I did wake up in a bad mood sorry about that, i did apologise, but I do agree that these vehicles are built to look nice and be comfy, they make suit waring off roading a comfy experience, however there is no point in pointing out their good off road capability when they dont have any

No problem!!

But if you apply the same criteria to sports cars, wouldn't that also make the performance figures irrelevant compared to those of F1 cars?

To genuinely excel in a particular aspect requires considerable compromises in other areas, and explains why F1 cars or Pinagauers aren't often found in your local Tescos car park. Whilst they're perfectly adapted for a particular set of conditions they're flawed in any other environment.

A bit like dropping a camel in the sea, or shark in the desert. But back in their home environment they excel.

 

[Shude]

I bet they are still a death trap in a crash because despite all the fine trim and better finish they are an ancient design still classified as a "commercial" vehicle." Anyone buying one of these is wasting their money IMHO. If they want to make "an offroad statement" why not buy a Brabus UNIMOG black edition and don't bother with "girly" cars. http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3300.asp?id=12779

I tried to make that unimog look more ridiculous but failed. I might try the reverse next time!