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Saab is owned by Spyker, finally!

The Chinese seem to be the ones with all the spare cash nowadays so almost inevitable Spyker would have to go there "cap in hand" :o They do like their "pound of flesh" though.:(
 
Well, we'll see. I think some Chinese deal or other is the only way Saab can carry on (especially as the Antonov deal still hasn't been approved by the EIB).
 
How can you say that when they have just launched a new MG branded car?


This is a valid point, but I believe that their recent European MG enterprise is just a side-show - i.e. while the cars are being made in large numbers to satisfy local demand, why not have a go at marketing it in Europe, as long as the margin is greater than the marketing and distribution costs it should be fine.

Plus, the fact that they export the marque to the demanding European market will be seen at home as a sign of excellence, boosting domestic sales.

And this is also very likely to be a bit of an exploratory export, to learn and gain experience with selling abroad, as they keep an open eye to a future where Chinese cars will dominate the west (as the Japanese did at the time).

But either way, I doubt very much that the Chinese really believe that their new MG will sell in any great numbers in the west against the traditional competition - not just yet, anyway.

So in short I still believe that the Chinese main and immediate gaol is to make low-cost mid-range okeyeesh cars with European flavour to satisfy local demand, hence the interest in Rover and Saab, both 'dying' marques with little future in their own home markets, so could be had for cheap.

All this while keeping an open mind regarding the long-term future of exports of future generations of cars to Europe and the US. The experience gained from getting involved with existing European car makers in this way will be invaluable for the future - both in terms of studying our design and manufacturing process, and in terms of understanding the European car market for future mass sales over here - but I doubt they really believe that SAAB can be resuscitated and retuned to it's formal glory, nor do they care much about this aspect of the business - and hence my example of what happened to Rover.

PS - in my previous post I said that the Chinese killed-off Rover - that was a manner of speech, Rover was obviously dead when BMW pulled out, what I should have said perhaps is that it served the Chinese interests better to let Rover die and then buy the assets.
 
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Can't see them making it through the short to medium turn anymore.

Sad to say really.
 
Wouldn't want to prang one - such a shame if this brand is destroyed. :(
 
such a shame if this brand is destroyed. :(

Having owned 2 in the past I couldn't agree more. GM have a lot to answer for IMO.:(
 
Are the dodgy Russians still involved or are they devoting all their energy to Portsmouth FC?
 
Although they've been accused of chronic under investment. VW did a good job with Skoda and Seat. Needed that kind of TLC.
 
SAAB would have gone pop years ago if GM hadn't taken over.

Maybe! Or they may have been taken over by someone like VW who haven't screwed every last penny out of Seat or Skoda both of which would also probably have gone to the wall by now without VW's intervention.:dk:
The European companies taken over by the Yanks seem to have all suffered in the long run whereas those taken over by Europeans seem to have flourished.
 
If VW had thought SAAB a viable proposition they would have bought them, but in reality they have been dead for years.
The cars were average cars produced expensively to a low volume of customers that though they had some cachet due to many years previously there was a connection to the SAAB aircraft manufacturer.
 
Back in the 80's the brand was strong enough and in my view no worse than Audi's. But look at Audi now. People like to suggest that platform sharing makes cars too similar and lack identity. But few people make Skoda jokes any more. Audi are happy to share parts with them and customers don't mind either. GM could have done the same with Saab but management let the brand decline. What a pity, as competition keeps the other OEMS sharp.
 
Well, maybe , but there's this sitting in the wings....

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But I agree, fat lady is coming out of the dressing room... :(
 

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