W124 left hand front wing

[3 phase]

Wonder if anyone can point me in the right direction. My W124, 1995 model was smacked into by an uninsured 2 weeks ago and though the body shop reckon they can repair the wing, (it is holed by the indicator) I wonder whether it would be best to source a replacement. Did the wings change with the facelifts of this model?? There are a couple decent bodied Mercs in local scrappies around here but they are older models with the bigger chromed grill. The way that scrapyards work down in these parts is somewhat different to those in the UK, you turn up tell 'em what you want and they go off and take it off for you, (they show you the condition of it' rust etc. while they disassemble it) and I don't want to go through all of that if it won't fit.

 

[talbir]

There is no difference between facelift and non-facelft wings.

However, you will need to careful if sourcing from UK, as most wings here will have the side repeater in the wing, whic was not mandatory in Spain.

A good used w124 wing is hard to find but usually available for £50 from a breaker.

talbir

 

[3 phase]

Thanks Talbir, much appreciated, that makes life a lot easier, the cars I'm looking at don't have side repeaters exactly like mine. Mine was actually a German spec car that was imported in to Spain in '98.

 

[SilverSaloon]

yes all wings are the same, on all the model shapes aswell as years.

 

[kth286]

There is no difference between facelift and non-facelft wings.


talbir

Not strictly true.

They were different part numbers because the more recent models had more flair and rolled edges to accommodate larger wheels without rubbing.

It meant you did not have to follow the AMG modification instructions when fitting their larger wheels to later cars and which were requiered on earlier cars.

However it seems that for replacement parts all wings now supplied under the one same part number, so I guess they will all have rolled edges for larger wheels, but as I have not seen a recent Mercedes replacement wing I cannot be sure, whether rolled or not.

 

[SilverSaloon]

Not strictly true.

They were different part numbers because the more recent models had more flair and rolled edges to accommodate larger wheels without rubbing.

It meant you did not have to follow the AMG modification instructions when fitting their larger wheels to later cars and which were requiered on earlier cars.

However it seems that for replacement parts all wings now supplied under the one same part number, so I guess they will all have rolled edges for larger wheels, but as I have not seen a recent Mercedes replacement wing I cannot be sure, whether rolled or not.

are you sure on that? surly if that was the case, and you needed to replace wings on an older model, you would have to do both sides otherwise it would look odd...??

 

[Sp!ke]

Apparently, if you feel under the wheel arch, the prefacelift models have a more pronounced lip which acts as a water/dirt trap not nearly so pronounced on facelift models.

There are no cosmetic differences though.

 

[kth286]

And of course the early wings did not have the cladding attached like the later wings, so there will also be the difference in positioning of the various holes to clip the cladding into.

So, perhaps they are not the same part numbers, I will have to look some up in due course. (apart from different numbers for left and right wings)

 

[talbir]

And of course the early wings did not have the cladding attached like the later wings, so there will also be the difference in positioning of the various holes to clip the cladding into.

So, perhaps they are not the same part numbers, I will have to look some up in due course. (apart from different numbers for left and right wings)

The early ones did not have cladding but they did have trim pieces....8 each side ! And the holes are in the same place, so you can fit new claddings to old wings.

talbir

 

[3 phase]

Thanks again for all your help, interesting what a little request for help can bring up aint it?

 

[Dee-124CAB]

Hi guys,

Need some expert help here, to cut a long story short, iv been after a couple of wings for the my facelift W124 cabriolet, which is awaiting a full respray.

I have just been offered a passanger side second hand wing, by someone local who says its original, I would like to know if theres any part number stamped on or anything like that to give me an idea that its oem ?.....

He also says its a late one, but its got no hole for the side repeater, & has 6 holes for the side cladding..... Is this a late one or an early one?

By the way the inside edge of the wheelarch does seem bigger & less rolled than the ones on my car at the moment, which leads me to beleive its an early one, but can someone confirm?......its in what seems like Nautic blue if that helps...

Cheers Dee

 

[kth286]

Sounds like it is from an early imported left drive car, so not really suitable.

 

[The G.F.P]

i need 2 wings for my w124 '95 coupe (originals)

someone on here had 1 but i need 2 as mine have both been filled and sprayed but they need replacing

 

[SilverSaloon]

i think all pattern ones now come with no indicator hole and u need to cut them in - i think.

sounds like its aftermarket.....

i guess if its genuine it will have a stamp somewhere on it, but maybe they just came with stickers on them....

 

[Dee-124CAB]

The pattern theory has crossed my mind , but the metal does seem nice & meaty, as i have heard pattern ones are notoriously thin.

It does also seem to be a nice weight , but again i need a known genuine one in my other hand, to make an accurate guess...

Just dont know what to make of it, it is only 30 quid though & rust free in the key areas so might be worth a punt, also no stickers on it.

Only fear is, i go along with it, have my car all painted & someone then comes over, taps it, & says 'nice car shame about the pattern wing!'

 

[SilverSaloon]

The pattern theory has crossed my mind , but the metal does seem nice & meaty, as i have heard pattern ones are notoriously thin.

It does also seem to be a nice weight , but again i need a known genuine one in my other hand, to make an accurate guess...

Just dont know what to make of it, it is only 30 quid though & rust free in the key areas so might be worth a punt, also no stickers on it.

Only fear is, i go along with it, have my car all painted & someone then comes over, taps it, & says 'nice car shame about the pattern wing!'

if it fits well then its probably genuine. could just be an older one without the indicator.

who cares if its a pattern aslong as its a good fit and looks good?

 

[grober]

At £30 and rust free you have nothing to lose really. If its been painted then its been fitted on a car and would have be "fettled to fit" at the time even it was a copy. If its a genuine wing its a bargain!

 

[Dee-124CAB]

Well im going to take the plunge now & see what my body man says when its paint time...

Only trouble now is ,if what member Kth286 said earlier in this thread about later wings being more flared is true, i will then need an earlier one for the other side....

 

[Dieselman]

Only trouble now is ,if what member Kth286 said earlier in this thread about later wings being more flared is true, i will then need an earlier one for the other side....

All numbers supersede to A1248804718 (right) and A1248804918 (left).

 

[Dee-124CAB]

All numbers supersede to A1248804718 (right) and A1248804918 (left).

Aah ok, but none of this info is actually on the wing itself, so i can assertain what it is exactly & what i will need on the other side to get an identicle looking pair?.... that is ofcourse if the changes that kth286 has stated actually exist.

Cheers Dee