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W210 E430 for those technical minded

Looks like the fault has been there before it got to them, the tow hook cover is missing.
 
aka$h said:
Looks like the fault has been there before it got to them, the tow hook cover is missing.

Excellent observation skills ;)
 
So what could it be chaps ?

Something expensive and they aren't letting on or something silly and a potential bargain for someone ?
 
Howard said:
So what could it be chaps ?

Something expensive and they aren't letting on or something silly and a potential bargain for someone ?

Possibly something that's expensive otherwise they'd have had it repaired?

The back seats look like they've seen a few backsides too.

Any service history with it?
 
I am tempted to say something cheap, the part looks like where the throttle cable comes to an end and enters the cruise unit, maybe a telephone call to ask whether you can see the cable move into and out of this unit when you push and relax the accelerator pedal, if it doesnt then the cable has come off/snapped, a few quid, otherwise its something mechanical inside this unit which could be cheap if you were mechanicaly minded or its the cruise unit, which has a 10 digit Bosch part number by the picture which means you can bypas MB and go straight to GSF/Cafcos whatever and get another, maybe while your on the phone asking about the cable you could get all the part numbers off the unit and enquire about the price of another unit? then you could go look at/buy the car armed with a new unit and a trailer if it doesnt work, replace the unit and maybe get a very cheap 430 or take it straight to merc and get a quote, if its too high break the car, engine, box and leathers etc must worth something.... depends on what it goes for it may be worth a bid......

Adding to my original post with the edit, from what I can see the cruise unit is a go between on the cable between your foot and the engine, its probably just a stepper motor inside it, you set the speed and it holds the cable, it may also be worth ringing the seller and getting him to start the engine and see if he can rev the it using the other end of the cable, if there is no other end this may also point to the problem, there is the worry that if you ring him and he figures out its easily fixable he may retract his listing and fix it, so probably better to go there if your local, also go there in a merc with cruise or have a look at yours outside and see if it is different to the picture on the listing, ie something is missing, I would but I came in the audi today,

I would but I already have 3 cars and her indoors is winging that I am filling up her pub car park with my cars as chances are I am going to sell all my cars and get something else........
 
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W210 Fan said:
I am tempted to say something cheap.
I always believe this site tends to sell cars as quickly as possible and to get the best price possible. Surely it is in their interest to consider whether to repaIr or not? I would budget for the worse possible scenario and treat anything else as a bonus.

The old shape LWB 7 series they are selling looks a very nice vehicle.

John
 
I know people in the trade and they tend to treat things like this as a risk, whats the risk of trying to fix it against the potential loss of revenue, its normally cheaper to just chuck them out broken, but there is always a risk buying a car which has a fult unless you really know what it is, but then there is always a risk buying a car as it may break down on the way home......

not that you can ever trust a salesman but this place seem fairly honest, they always list nice cars around the 100 tho with no reserve and let the market dictate the price
 
This ebay seller is great, they trade used cars all day and night but check out the T&Cs! :)
TERMS AND CONDITIONS

1) We are an auction company. We facilitate the auctioning of vendors vehicles, not our own, which means cars are completely sold as seen. We welcome you to come down in advance, or on the day of collection, with a mechanic if you wish, and thoroughly test your car before proceeding to purchase. You will be completely left alone do to this and we would actively encourage you do so, as ONCE BOUGHT WE CANNOT ENTERTAIN ANY AFTER SALES ISSUES.

2) We can point you in the direction of a warrantee company that will for a very reasonable additional cost provide you with 3, 6 or 12 mths warrantee. We would strongly encourage you to avail yourself of this, as we offer NO MECHANICAL WARRANTEE WHATSOEVER. EVERYTHING WE SELL IS SOLD VERY STRICTLY AS SEEN

3) Whilst we endeavour to list as accurately as possible we will not be held responsible for any errors or omissions in the listing. It is meant as a guide only. Descriptions can be subjective and with the volume we're processing we can miss things. So whilst we pursue non showing bidders, if a buyer feels one of our cars is not fairly described having seen it, he is under no obligation to buy it. We will respect, and won’t question their decision.

5) Contact must be made within 24hrs, collection and pickup within 7 days. Payment methods: Bankers Draft / Building society Cheque, Debit Card (no charge), Credit Card (2% on top). We don't accept Amex or PayPal.

6) Cars are valetted on a best endeavours basis, so if you expect your car unvaletted, you cannot be disappointed.

7) Any mileages must be considered inaccurate unless backup up with documentary evidence.

8) LPG vehicles that come to us are tested on LPG, if there is gas in the tank. If there isn't, they are untested on LPG and are sold as seen. Therefore if it's not declared as 'runs on LPG' assume it may not.
 
Arent these controlled electronically, i doubt there is an actual throttle cable.

It would be silly for the dealer not to repair this prior to sale if it were something simple and i dont know many traders who are that stupid.

I think there is much more to this than the seller is letting on.
 
jaymanek said:
Arent these controlled electronically, i doubt there is an actual throttle cable.
The pedal linkage pulls something and a cable goes to the engine but in between is anyone's guess, the W210 has a similar fly-by-wire setup to all modern MBs. You only have to try the cruise control and speed limiter functions to see this.
 
exactly, so its probably controlled by some sort of control unit which im sure is £'s, and as there are not many E430's in the country im taking an educated guess that there are not many second hand bits available.
 
jaymanek said:
exactly, so its probably controlled by some sort of control unit which im sure is £'s, and as there are not many E430's in the country im taking an educated guess that there are not many second hand bits available.
I'm willing to bet that it's the same unit for all models, not just W210 E430s but maybe all V8 petrols or indeed all cars of that generation.
 
maybe, we will never know unless someone buys it i guess!
 
jaymanek said:
maybe, we will never know unless someone buys it i guess!
Well that's not true is it? I'm sure a few mins looking at the EPC would reveal the answers!
 
Shude said:
This ebay seller is great, they trade used cars all day and night but check out the T&Cs! :)
Regarding his T&C's; these are clear, straightforward and I wouldn't have a problem with them which is what I think you meant.
He seems to turn over a lot of cars and has a nice little business. As Glojo said that's a really nice 7 Series.
 
That's the Throttle Position Sensor. Throttle cable actuates the unit which then sends the signal, via I assume several very expensive pieces of hardware to the throttle body. I wouldn't go to look at that car without a diagnostic computer, even then, you're likely not even half way there. The fault could be with the unit or I assume the ECU / throttle body etc... As has been mentioned - if it was straight forward they would have fixed it...
 
BonzoDog said:
Regarding his T&C's; these are clear, straightforward and I wouldn't have a problem with them which is what I think you meant.
He seems to turn over a lot of cars and has a nice little business. As Glojo said that's a really nice 7 Series.
Actually what I meant was that these guys buy cars from auctions and then auction them off themselves. They are presumably registered as car traders but do not offer any kind of trader guarantee/warranty (check the spelling in their T&Cs ;) ).

EDIT: additionally they use shill bidding to inflate the final price and have re-listed cars that were supposedly sold to someone. There are threads regarding this on the forum!
 

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