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Wow, so much anger on this subject.
My wife has an AMG GLE 63 and this skips / judders very noticeably at low speeds.
I had until recently an AMG GT, obviously a rear wheel drive car, and this skipped at low speeds.
Before that I had a Porsche 911 GTS, a four wheel drive one, and that skipped at low speeds.
I now have an Audi R8 and this skips at low speeds. The R8 is probably worst of the lot.
I've had many many other cars that do this too, all of them high performance cars on big wheels and sports-orientated tyres.
Likewise, I've also had other cars which don't do this.
In my personal experience it's nothing to do with being 4WD (the Alfa Giulia mentioned above is a 2WD car) and it certainly doesn't just happen to Mercedes cars. It is more typical in high performance cars with a combination of aggressive geometry, big wheels and high performance tyres. It's just one of those things and it is a characteristic of such cars.
I'm not suggesting that how Mercedes have handled this is particularly good. Indeed, I've been on the receiving end of some particularly cr@p service from them, however, Mercedes are no better or worse than other manufacturers and it's nothing to do with the cost of the product (Mercedes service is definitely no worse than I get on a £150k+ Audi for example!). However, they do appear to be bombarded by customers with unreasonable expectations on an technical 'situation' that is neither unusual nor exclusive to Mercedes.
I suspect there will be more people NOT bothered by this people who are bothered by it. I'm one who is not bothered, mainly because my experience of (far too many) other cars and configurations confirms it's not unusual. If you are bothered by it there's two choices really....get over it or buy something else.
Fitting softer and less performance orientated tyres is the other option, but they'll be inferior performing tyres because....they're softer and less performance orientated. So you'll get rid of the skipping in cold / damp / full lock conditions....yet have less performance (from your performance car) in other driving situations. There's no right or wrong but it just highlights how most things are a compromise one way or another.
A great motto to keep in mind in these situations (it works for me when getting wound up about things that really aren't that important in the grand scheme of things).....trade your expectations for appreciation and your whole world changes in an instant.
UOTE="Palmball, post: 2569238, member: 27245"]Wow, so much anger on this subject.
My wife has an AMG GLE 63 and this skips / judders very noticeably at low speeds.
I had until recently an AMG GT, obviously a rear wheel drive car, and this skipped at low speeds.
Before that I had a Porsche 911 GTS, a four wheel drive one, and that skipped at low speeds.
I now have an Audi R8 and this skips at low speeds. The R8 is probably worst of the lot.
I've had many many other cars that do this too, all of them high performance cars on big wheels and sports-orientated tyres.
Likewise, I've also had other cars which don't do this.
In my personal experience it's nothing to do with being 4WD (the Alfa Giulia mentioned above is a 2WD car) and it certainly doesn't
just happen to Mercedes cars. It is more typical in high performance cars with a combination of aggressive geometry, big wheels and high performance tyres. It's just one of those things and it is a characteristic of such cars.
I'm not suggesting that how Mercedes have handled this is particularly good. Indeed, I've been on the receiving end of some particularly cr@p service from them, however, Mercedes are no better or worse than other manufacturers and it's nothing to do with the cost of the product (Mercedes service is definitely no worse than I get on a £150k+ Audi for example!). However, they do appear to be bombarded by customers with unreasonable expectations on an technical 'situation' that is neither unusual nor exclusive to Mercedes.
I suspect there will be more people NOT bothered by this people who are bothered by it. I'm one who is not bothered, mainly because my experience of (far too many) other cars and configurations confirms it's not unusual. If you are bothered by it there's two choices really....get over it or buy something else.
Fitting softer and less performance orientated tyres is the other option, but they'll be inferior performing tyres because....they're softer and less performance orientated. So you'll get rid of the skipping in cold / damp / full lock conditions....yet have less performance (from your performance car) in other driving situations. There's no right or wrong but it just highlights how most things are a compromise one way or another.
A great motto to keep in mind in these situations (it works for me when getting wound up about things that really aren't that important in the grand scheme of things).....trade your expectations for appreciation and your whole world changes in an instant.[/QUOTE]
I think you are overlooking something here, and that is in order to address this issue the OP has been advised to fit winter tyres. Now I know there will be limitations using these boots but MB themselves are recommending this and if they knew about this issue they should have offered new owners who take delivery of their cars during the colder months the option of stock tyres or winters. This whole debacle is becoming very diverse but at the end of the day if this is Mr Ackerman's doing and many other marque of car suffer the same then why would MB offer to replace FOC customers tyre's? No need to answer as the answer is that -
probably- the backlash of complaints were greater than MB had expected and way more than other prestige car makers with the same issue have experienced. So I guess they felt duty bound to address this in some way. Last word on this... at the lower end of the performance scale all new C43's are being fitted with Continental SSR MOE tyres which masks this issue. Good move MB pity you didn't think of that before....