Whats your strategy for year 2030 / ban of ICE vehicles?

[MikeInWimbledon]

Sorry, boys, you need to get your head around this whole "time to charge" thing.

People have different needs, andmost will never use a (Supermarket / Car park / BP Pulse / Supercharger Commercial charger at all, so get over that panic about the need for more commercial charging points

But even while most will charge at home, there's still no need for them to run that cable at home for very long.

That said, for the Accountant living in a 2nd floor flat on that Brighton street, she won't even have the opportunity to run a mains cable across the pavement, so she will be using a high speed commercial charger when she goes shopping or visits her mum.

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

There has been some recent progress with diagnosis.

MRI scans improve prostate cancer diagnosis in screening trial

Using MRI as a screening test alongside PSA density allowed detection of cancers that would have been missed by the blood test alone, according to new research from UCL, UCLH and King’s College London.

www.ucl.ac.uk

Understood. It'll be a long time before that new tech reaches the public.

My point was the people we all know over the last few decades who were over diagnosed and over-treated with harmful, invasive and depressing prostate surgery which didn't extend their healthy life expectancy at all.

Androgen-Deprivation Therapy for Prostate Cancer

 

[sgregory124]

A connected car automatically uploading data straight to HMRC (or DVLA)? Without a court order? Where and how? Do enlighten me please.

I never said the data was going to the HMRC or DVLA? The power companies will get that data, no need for any legal permission to be given.

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

Most of the 4 billion flats being built around the Colindale area of north London don’t even have parking spaces let alone charge points.
The proles are expected to leave their boxes, jump on the Northern Line to work, come back to their boxes and do it again the next day.
What an awful way to live.

Bear in mind that those wage slaves (and divorcees) think you're a fool to be dependent on driving and wasting thousands every year on a car.

 

[Darrell]

Bear in mind that those wage slaves (and divorcees) think you're a fool to be dependent on driving and wasting thousands every year on a car.

Good job I’m not then isn’t it.

Also I’m not forced to take a day off when the train drivers etc fancy a round of golf.

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

Of course it does :

Folks aren't aware that the latest high speed EV superchargers can add 100 miles of range in less than 10 minutes

 

[Tonye]

Technically possible, yes, but unlikely to happen in our lifetime

Remind us all how long mobiles have been around

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

Good job I’m not then isn’t it.

Ditto.

Dearest daughter lives in a very nice flat off Borough High Street, a 15 minute walk to the office. In two decades of working in the City, it never crossed my mind once that I should do the same. She loves it.

I would never have given up driving nearly ten hours a week to get to and from work.

 

[markjay]

Remind us all how long mobiles have been around

And can a government agency access your mobile phone without a court order? Perhaps GCHQ can... but they are hardly likely to be utilised to spy after EVs

 

[markjay]

Folks aren't aware that the latest high speed EV superchargers can add 100 miles of range in less than 10 minutes

In 2021 Hyundai demonstrated charging an IONIQ5 from 10% to 80% in 18 minutes.

That was under optimal conditions (battery temp) and using a 220kW charger (there are only 20+ of these ultrafast chargers in the UK at current), but it does show what the technology is capable of, and where this is heading.

 

[Darrell]

Ditto.

Dearest daughter lives in a very nice flat off Borough High Street, a 15 minute walk to the office. In two decades of working in the City, it never crossed my mind once that I should do the same. She loves it.

I would never have given up driving nearly ten hours a week to get to and from work.

I know Borough High Street well enough. My old firm a small office nearby when we were working on the London Bridge refurb. We used to go to The Woolpack.

I wouldn’t want to live near my work.

 

[markjay]

I never said the data was going to the HMRC or DVLA? The power companies will get that data, no need for any legal permission to be given.

So you're saying that there's no need for Tesla to obtain your permission before giving away your data to a commercial third party? What about GDPR then....?

 

[sgregory124]

So you're saying that there's no need for Tesla to obtain your permission before giving away your data to a commercial third party? What about GDPR then....?

Ok what I meant to say was sure they’ll get your permission, they’ll just bury the details in their T’s & C’s, which you’ll agree to because you won’t want to read 50 pages of legal text - just like everyone does. Unless you read those documents from start to finish religiously?

I tacitly agreed to British Gas using my energy usage data when I had my smart meters installed, same difference.

It’s also worth mentioning that GDPR isn’t the deterrent you think it is. Trust me, I work for a national law firm and know how this works

Regardless, you aren’t going to be able to avoid it.

 

[ToeKnee]

I wouldn’t want to live near my work.

My "work" sits on the drive right outside my front window.........

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

In 2021 Hyundai demonstrated charging an IONIQ5 from 10% to 80% in 18 minutes.

That was under optimal conditions (battery temp) and using a 220kW charger (there are only 20+ of these ultrafast chargers in the UK at current), but it does show what the technology is capable of, and where this is heading.

Understood. I've been using bog standard Tesla Superchargers this week to pop in an extra 100-200 miles while picking up shopping.

I'm just highlighting that people don't understand where the tech already is, and how it's spreading.

I had someone complaining yesterday that they couldn't go EV because they couldn't imagine the idea of stopping to charge mid-journey on the way from London to Durham. Bizarre. That's well within the range of the thing I'm driving at the moment.

There are many reasons not to go EV, but charging time or cables on the street, aren't significant.

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

I know Borough High Street well enough. My old firm a small office nearby when we were working on the London Bridge refurb. We used to go to The Woolpack.
I wouldn’t want to live near my work.

Work makes you free.
I worked over the Barclay Fry cheque printing factory on Great Guildford Street. A grim old industrial area, even if you could park on a meter all day outside the office. She loves it because of all the restaurants and bars within walking distance.

Daft because she works a 12 hour day, usually eats her free dinner in the office, and works through until dawn a couple of times a month.

Kids: where did we go wrong?

 

[Tonye]

And can a government agency access your mobile phone without a court order?

I'm not saying that, I'm saying tech moves fast. My car talks to my phone all the time so the future is coming quick. one hidden sim is all that's needed.

 

[Swotty]

Anyone know what the total power i.e. electric demand will be for the integrated EV recharging structure envisaged under the govt's NetZero strategy?

And how that compares to existing demand? Haven't read the document(s) and perhaps some kind and dedicated soul on here has.

Is this achievable, given the drive for power generation by renewables and what vehicle numbers are envisaged?

 

[Tonye]

electric demand

A lot

power generation by renewables

A lot of windmills

 

[Tonye]

As said before, lots of batteries in a few years ripe for referb. All stacked up ready for power storage for the grid, now that will go with a big bang .
Coming to a warehouse near you.